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05-11-2015, 09:57 AM
(05-11-2015, 09:33 AM)Gegenji Wrote: Oh, derp. I can read.

Still, while they might be magically more powerful, I still think we could possibly consider them "mere mortals." In the sense that they ARE mortal (and thus can die), and born of Man thus possessing Man's trappings and failings. Which makes me wonder if we might ever see a "fallen" or "evil" Padjal (perhaps that has something to do with the "sinister means" to gain access to Succor that was mentioned?).

Fallibility and power aren't intrinsically linked, though. Many main villains are powerful but have their failings which cause them to ultimately lose in the end, after all.

A fallen or excommunicated Padjal could be very interesting. ...but in such an event, they would likely have lost their Elemental-granted usage of Succor.


(05-11-2015, 01:59 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: I won't get into 1.0 or lore panels; I wasn't here for them, nor do I consider them particularly important, not when the former has largely been retconned on an official level and the latter had no real involvement with the Japanese writing team.

Except...there is not a super-special "Japanese writing team". Just like there's no "original Japanese script" for the game. The lore and localization teams work together to create the dialogue and lore in the game. Something I find critically important about the lore panels that we're given. Ignoring them is like saying "Well, I don't watch the news or read the newspaper, so I don't find ______ particularly important." ...that's just...OK. Fine. People can play what they want.

(05-11-2015, 01:59 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: To put it simply: white magic is the raw, traditional root. Conjury is the simplified, common branch.

...but it isn't. Conjury was taught to man by the Moogles. While their methods are similar, they are not the same kind of magic at all. I can use matches and a lighter to make a fire. They both burn fuel to produce a flame. How they are ignited and how that fuel burns (and how strong) are quite different.


(05-11-2015, 01:59 AM)hauntmedoitagain Wrote: Are Padjali stronger? I sincerely doubt it. They're nothing more than Hyur with what amounts to as a glorified genetic deviation, mortal as anyone else and thus equally as fallible. We just haven't been given any real examples in-game yet.

Padjal are born Hyur or Elezen, from what we've seen in-game in 2.0. A-Towa Cant was an Elezen. While we haven't seen any, I could imagine it's not impossible for the other races to be made into Padjal either. The only requirements that the game has given is that:
1) Child/Teen
2) Likely born in Gridania/The Black Shroud
3) Powerful Conjurer (like a Hearer) -> an already strong connection with nature and the forest

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the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by SayonaraRevival - 05-10-2015, 08:41 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Sounsyy - 05-10-2015, 09:48 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Flickering Ember - 05-10-2015, 11:18 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-11-2015, 12:30 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Flickering Ember - 05-11-2015, 12:35 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Sounsyy - 05-11-2015, 07:17 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-10-2015, 09:53 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-10-2015, 11:09 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-10-2015, 11:12 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-10-2015, 11:14 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-10-2015, 11:29 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gone. - 05-11-2015, 01:59 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by LiadansWhisper - 05-11-2015, 04:04 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Warren Castille - 05-11-2015, 09:28 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gegenji - 05-11-2015, 09:30 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Warren Castille - 05-11-2015, 09:32 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-11-2015, 08:26 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gegenji - 05-11-2015, 09:33 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-11-2015, 09:57 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by SayonaraRevival - 05-11-2015, 12:30 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Gegenji - 05-11-2015, 12:33 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-11-2015, 12:48 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by ArmachiA - 05-11-2015, 02:27 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Aduu Avagnar - 05-12-2015, 07:26 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Oats McGoats - 05-12-2015, 10:12 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by allgivenover - 05-12-2015, 10:21 AM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Oats McGoats - 05-12-2015, 04:42 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Unnamed Mercenary - 05-12-2015, 04:46 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Warren Castille - 05-12-2015, 02:03 PM
RE: the practices of CNJ vs WHM? - by Edda - 05-12-2015, 02:08 PM

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