(06-03-2015, 09:25 PM)Gegenji Wrote:I legit giggled. 7/10 laugh, 8/10 because lasting smile.(06-03-2015, 09:12 PM)Memenu Wrote: Which opens up the issue of outside of being an angry midget, what is Memenu's true form?A smaller, angrier midget.
(06-03-2015, 09:26 PM)Sounsyy Wrote:(06-03-2015, 08:32 PM)Memenu Wrote: 3b) Remember, Enkidu was also a Primal (I...Think, I forgot. You can completely correct me if I'm wrong) in the Hildebrand scenarios and he(she?) didn't need crystals. ...To my knoweldge.
Also; Greg's "final" form. Also, is Diabolos considered a Primal in Eorzean lore?
Enkidu is another example of a "Primal" that was a reincarnation of a real individual. Like Moggle Mog or Shiva. Enkidu was Gilgamesh's companion, but that companion was lost, so the memory of that companion reincarnated "Enkidu" as a Primal when Gilgamesh sat on a large stack of crystal-carrying crates and wished his friend would return to him. So, yep, crystals were used in the making of this Primal. ^^
And Diabolos is not a Primal in XIV's lore. He's a Voidsent King summoned during the War of the Magi and imprisoned by the Magi of Amdapor.
(06-03-2015, 08:32 PM)Memenu Wrote: 3c) As stated, Memenu's unique in that she cannot Temper others, so her "sphere" of influence will only grow by those who truly wish to believe in her. (I primarily chose to make this ability impossible as to not have any sort of "power" abuse. tldr; ability removed because generally it's OP.).
Tempering is completely purposeful on the Primal's part. They have to actively want to Temper someone, it doesn't just happen on its own. Ifrit scorches his in fire. Leviathan drowns them. Bahamut tempers the soul of the dying before they depart for Thal's realm. Someone has to pick up Zantetsuken for it to temper them. Tempering aside though, the real danger of a Primal is their constant aether drain on the world - which was the concern in bullet #3.
But I have to ask, if your character is a Primal... but doesn't Temper, and it sounds like you're trying to work around the constant aether drain, and isn't actively using their limited lifespan to flatten Garleans (as that's the purpose she was summoned for right?) what is the um point of having her being a Primal? I mean, being a Primal is an interesting concept to play with, but you've essentially eliminated half of what makes a Primal a Primal in order to mingle in day-in-the-life rp and so didn't really leave her with much... Primal-ness? I don't think the tortured Lalafells who summoned her to kill Garleans would be very pleased she's down at the tavern in Ul'dah engaging in idle conversation?
I mean if the justification behind her being a Primal is just because you really wanna RP being a Primal, go for it - but I'd say really go all out and have her be a full fledged primal. Tempering, city-flattening power, constant aether drain, etc. I mean, you say you don't wanna be OP, but that's kinda... the whole point of a Primal? If they weren't OP no one would bother summoning them.
Tempering itself is more a balance concern than an actual lore concern. Removing the ability just makes it easier to balance Memenu as a character. Just in case an RP battle ever comes up. "Removing the rattle from the baby" so to speak.
In example; Memenu is weakened enough to be finished off, oh look, she just tempered half the damn city and now damn near close to full power. Again. It's boring, it's annoying, and it's more overpowered than anything else.
The group summoned her to help them against not only their oppressors, but the oppressors of other Lalafell. She can facepunch Garlean after Garlean, but her corporeal form still needs rest. Even more so if her body is a vessel to contain her essence. (From a lore standpoint, I don't know if this is even possible. It's neither hinted nor denied. However, if a focus can be used to amplify the power of a Primal, I don't see it being an issue for one to sacrifice their very soul to use their body as a vessel for its power.)
I don't know how Bahamut works other than being an Elder Primal, I haven't gotten through second coil, so I know very little about him(her? It?). I'd also rather ask questions than assume things that are wrong.
Her being in the form that she is allows for open-endedness in that she's not a forced antagonist. She can always end up helping the Scions just because they have a common ground. Sure the Scions will probably be keeping a very close eye on what very much a loose cannon.Â
Well, the thing is, since Moggle Mog isn't a Primal, neither is she. However; I don't see any real harm letting herself believe she is. -shrugs-
The points you bring up are excellent questions; questions I wouldn't have thought of myself, but are very valuable to think within the lore limits of both the game and the lore of the world itself.
