(07-02-2015, 11:38 AM)Sylentmana Wrote: I didn't mean that you should use elements of the game's story as that would be unreasonable
Using the system mechanics is just as implausible. Â Your character can't see my level. Â Your character shouldn't treat mine a certain way because of level, the same way mine can't see your level. Â You just are what you RP that you are. Â I ran across a 50 Ninja in full AF, whose AF had been glamored into the trashy shepards tunic and worn pants. Â They passed as a commoner, but they obviously had training as a Ninja, and were a Ninja in disguise. Â I'd have no way of knowing that IC, and would be metagaming if I tried to state otherwise about their stance/etc when they gave nothing away.
(07-02-2015, 11:38 AM)Sylentmana Wrote: While I do agree that using such knowledge as character and weapon stats while IC is considered metagaming, I do think that your character can look at another character and, through visual cues, get a basic of how powerful/skilled that character is. Â High-quality armor and weapons are a good indicator that a character has had a lot of experience fighting and has conquered some tough opponents. Â While this is not universally true, my characters would often think twice before engaging in combat with opponents that sport such visual cues.
Glioca uses the Rainbow Shirt, hempen pants, sabatons, rimless glasses, and no shield when IC, and represents herself as a Mystic Knight, someone who combines spellcraft and swordplay. Â There is no current in-game representation of it, but Mystic Knight is canon in the Final Fantasy universe elsewhere, and was I want to say used similarly as a Rune Fencer in XI. Â Does this mean I can't use it in game? Â Despite the fact I think it's an interesting type of character and an interesting fighting style? Â That's very limiting and means I have to be one of the current character classes, none of which wholly fit her character concept. Â
Going into the bit about characters in fancy armor, even the low-leveled NPC Sultansworn wear the Paladin AF as a uniform. Â Including those less skilled than the captain of the Sultansworn. Â They're a more untrained individual in fancy armor. Â I point you to the newest Armorsmith quest. Â Blanstyr, the Roe we fought against in a smithing contest looks great in the armor he makes for himself, but has absolutely no skill and is saved by a party of low-level adventurers out in the fields around Lower La Noscea. Â
Armor/level doesn't make skill, it just helps in the game mechanic sense. Â Similarly, in an RP fight, a more heavily armored character might have an advantage against a non-armored character. Â Unless of course you're fighting a mage who sets your armor alight with fire and boils you out of it, but that's a whole other kettle of fish. Â Either way, I think you get where I was going with that.
(07-02-2015, 11:38 AM)Sylentmana Wrote: While I do think the Ninja is a profession that originated in Doma/Othard, I see all the basic classes/jobs that you choose in Character Creation to be common throughout the world.
We don't currently know what classes originated in what areas. Â We have some ideas based on Xaela lore (Dazkar are archers, for example), Â but Ninja can only be obtained by learning about it from NPC's from Doma. Â Reversing the above point, should non-Doman Ninja be dismissed as lore-breaking? Â Even if their character traveled to Othard as part of their backstory?
(07-02-2015, 11:38 AM)Sylentmana Wrote: Just because they haven't been represented by NPCs yet, that doesn't mean they don't exist.
But if we're going strictly off what we see in the game as far as classes and levels, that contradicts believing things not represented in the game. Â That's why there are so many issues. Â Picking and choosing means that you want to dismiss certain concepts and embrace other concepts, and while that's great on a personal level, that limits your RP and can potentially cause you to blow someone's cover, for example, if they're doing a certain thing with their character ICly and you make a comment about them not being a threat, or being overly skilled because of their gear. Â If that low level character is strong but slumming it (max level on another toon but representing a different class because of appearance gear), or if that high level character is game-strong but totally unskilled in RP
(07-02-2015, 11:38 AM)Sylentmana Wrote: As for RPing a voidsent, its true that those aren't represented by playable stats, but they aren't playable at all and it seems like it would be a bit lore-breaking to RP one
Voidsent RP is actually supported by lore and not breaking it, provided the character is possessed (most commonly seen). Â We see it in the Haukke Manor questline with Lady Amandine, and it's referenced in the Thaumaturge questline when Cocobusi is possessed by a voidsent as part of the quest chain.
(07-02-2015, 11:38 AM)Sylentmana Wrote: It's all just personal preference.
I understand that things like this are personal preference, but at the same time, if I was the RPer you derailed, I know I'd be upset. Â Especially because someone I was trying to interact with was metagaming on me. Â Most of us as players would be incensed if someone was attempting to metagame in an RP with us, but for some reason, OOC levels seems to be an acceptable place to metagame at for a lot of players, and I actually find that kind of disturbing.
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