Also, we speak as though the Twelve actually exist when, well...
A) None were there when the Twelve allegedly were on Eorzea, and even the various saints can't even be tied down to any historical fact. Hell...
B) The Twelve are an Eorzean belief, that is not held worldwide - You'd think if it was a certainty that they exist, more people from outside would recognize that part of the theology.
Although quite frankly I think the definition of Atheism in fantasy should be twisted because most of the time there actually is an order of the universe that involves otherworldly, all-powerful beings. For example, we have Hydaelyn for the world of FFXIV.
Atheism would be rejection of all dogmas and power those beings have over life (recognizing that the otherworldly being exists if they have proof that they do, but that they have no incidence on life and whoever claims so is a charlatan) instead of disbelief. This'd enable us to have a definition that's closer to what the people of that world would experience while also removing the Garleans from the equation, who have their own dogma that they rigorously believe in.
I personally play Kell as a sort-of atheist, but it's more paganistic than atheistic when you analyze it a tiny bit beyond the surface. He recognizes that the Twelve are important to Eorzean life, but his own beliefs lie in the elements themselves and his people have all sorts of rituals based on those. That they chose to manifest as actual deities on Eorzea is their choice, and he respects that.
But he'll still say "Fire take my hand" as a swear. Even if "By Byregot's gut" is hilarious.
A) None were there when the Twelve allegedly were on Eorzea, and even the various saints can't even be tied down to any historical fact. Hell...
B) The Twelve are an Eorzean belief, that is not held worldwide - You'd think if it was a certainty that they exist, more people from outside would recognize that part of the theology.
Although quite frankly I think the definition of Atheism in fantasy should be twisted because most of the time there actually is an order of the universe that involves otherworldly, all-powerful beings. For example, we have Hydaelyn for the world of FFXIV.
Atheism would be rejection of all dogmas and power those beings have over life (recognizing that the otherworldly being exists if they have proof that they do, but that they have no incidence on life and whoever claims so is a charlatan) instead of disbelief. This'd enable us to have a definition that's closer to what the people of that world would experience while also removing the Garleans from the equation, who have their own dogma that they rigorously believe in.
I personally play Kell as a sort-of atheist, but it's more paganistic than atheistic when you analyze it a tiny bit beyond the surface. He recognizes that the Twelve are important to Eorzean life, but his own beliefs lie in the elements themselves and his people have all sorts of rituals based on those. That they chose to manifest as actual deities on Eorzea is their choice, and he respects that.
But he'll still say "Fire take my hand" as a swear. Even if "By Byregot's gut" is hilarious.
