(07-10-2015, 05:08 PM)Natalie Mcbeef Wrote:(07-08-2015, 04:12 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:(07-08-2015, 04:07 PM)War Siren Wrote: Right I should have been more clear I did mean just the Primals. I wasn't aware there were other ways around tempering though.
Canonically, there's not, other than just being lucky or capitalizing on the arrogance of the primal, it seems; however, a number of RPers have come up with a variety of approaches in the grey areas of lore, including alchemical concoctions, magical shields, magitek devices, and so on.
Though it can be said not all primals are interested in Tempering, and different primals seem to temper at different rates.
It seems to be a gradual thing, with different levels. In the beast tribe quests you see someone who was tempered too many times, and sort of just lost all sense of self. It seems that a person of relatively strong will might take longer/retain more of themself during tempering attempts.
(07-10-2015, 06:28 PM)Kaniko Niko Wrote: It seems to me that the act of tempering seems to be a process rather than something that just happens due to a Primal's existence. Way back in the 2.0 content, you were captured and marched off to the Bowl of Embers to be tempered by Ifirit. When you were there, some were being tempered, and some were going to be. There was a line, really. This leads me to believe that tempering is much like indoctrination. Or Stockholm Syndrome.
While I was reading back over this thread, I saw a lot of talk about Tempering. Figured I'd throw in the official answer.
From this interview with Fernehalwes:
Quote:GE: Can you give us some details on what happens to a person when they become tempered by a Primal? How much of their identity remains? Also, speaking of “tempered,†some people have taken to the idea that this term was only supposed to be attached to Ifrit, since tempering involves heat, and we see other terms attached to the process with other primals (Drowned / Touched). Care to shed any insight on what’s up with the different names?
MCKF: Back in 1.0, in that first Ifrit battle, that whole thing is that Ifrit has his blue flames that he spits out. That’s what tempers the people. There used to be NPCs that would go “No! I’d rather die than be tempered!†because it takes all of you away. It tempers you, removes part of your will to make you more acceptable to the teachings of Ifrit and the Amal’jaa. How much of the identity remains depends on how much tempering has been done. You don’t get a full tempering in one shot. One tempering will remove some of your will, but you’re still kind of conscious. If you remember back in 1.x you have people in the Serpent Reavers that were “drowned,†but they were still talking about their lives in the past, but now they’ve changed.
GE: So, it’s like a diet tempered.
MCKF: Yeah, there’s still a little bit of them left, but they’re convinced of the true power of Ifrit, Leviathan, etc. The more you get tempered, the more you lose. Currently, there is no known way to cure the tempering. Currently.
For Ifrit, the process is his blue flame. For Leviathan, they’ll dunk you in the holy water and you become Drowned. It’s the same process, but it’s a different kind. For Garuda you’re being touched by her gales of tempering, and so we’re calling it Touched. It’s that element washing over you and taking part of you away. You can assume there will be something similar with Ramuh and Shiva like Shocked or Frozen.
Hope this clears up some things about tempering! ^^
