(08-23-2015, 11:48 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(08-23-2015, 06:50 PM)Virella Douront Wrote: I can understand the decision though of SE, especially because gamers these days are not like they use to be. These days we whine about having to catch up after all, and for the newer playerbase it will be dealbreaker whether they get the game or not. That said I'd imagine they will conjurer up a good enough reason for 4.0 not needing 3.0, doubt Ishgard wouldn't have a part in it though, especially with the MQS ending, and if Ala Mhigo is indeed a part of the next expansion!
I don't think this is fair. Â Roleplayers, by nature, tend to be very story-focused, but we are a tiny, tiny minority of overall players. Â Many PvE-focused players honestly don't care about the story. They care about their PvE endgame and they get frustrated when there are arbitrary, artificial blocks put into place to prevent them from getting there in the most efficient manner possible.
But if you think that gamers today "whine more" than gamers of yesteryear, I'm going to have to disagree with you. Â I've been roleplaying and playing various videogames for well over a decade now, and I promise you that gamers were bitching and moaning up a storm every bit as loud when I started many moons ago.
I come from a completely different setting than most MMO players here, PvP one, not roleplay, not PvE one.
If you made a new character, or hell, made a PvE char who you wanted decked out for PvP, holy fucking shit, you only did this as a status symbol. You KNEW you had to run said character trough all content, you KNEW you had dish out lots of shekles to get proper gear, and hell, if you were mad enough, you would get the most fanciest armor and weapons as well, who costed a lot of gold as well. Even having the SHOES of the armor set what considered a damn status symbol.
No one was whining about it, and if they did? Everyone would call you a whining little bitch, and told you to suck it up and don't use PvE characters any more if you couldn't be arsed to deck them out with maxed out gear, skills and unlocked content. Because of you didn't? Holy sheet, you were fucking over your PvP team by lacking maxed out stats, or even worse, skills. You made your PvE characters for the epeen status, and you were simply required to go unlock shit, and you simply sucked it up, and just did it instead.
Mindsets are completely different these days, people just expect it to be thrown at them compared to when gaming wasn't the mainstream shit.That said, PvP background, not PvE, not RP, people are very, very different there. Surely, I am not going to whine if they change the gating, but for now I just know if I make an alt, and I got two hopping around 50, I simply know I will have to go chew through the 3.0 content if I want them to 60 (Well I can dungeon grind low level shit with roulettes but...). It's a thing they are not going to change, so I am not going to complain about it. Same if I picked up another MMO later then the playerbase, I would be excited to catch up, not whine about it. I started FFXIV later than most, and I simply enjoyed catching up. I didn't give a fuck about the story pre-50, I enjoyed the game mechanics, the dungeons and most of all, the community. I saw no reason to pull out my whining card, but simply dealt with being behind most because the game was fun.
BUT
AS I SAID AND PEOPLE ARE OVERLOOKING IT
ITS NOT A BAD THING IT GETS REMOVED DUE TO THIS CHANGE OF MINDSET. PEOPLE HAVE CHANGED OVER THE YEARS, GAMING IS MORE OPEN. THE MORE PLAYERS THE BETTER IN THE END.
Learn to read, stop nitpicking. Trying to say that people are exactly the same as they used to be is nonsense. Its not better, its not worse, it is different mindsets of the average gamer, because things have become so mainstream.
(08-23-2015, 06:50 PM)Virella Douront Wrote: and for the newer playerbase it will be dealbreaker whether they get the game or not.
