(09-21-2015, 03:43 PM)Setoh Aliapoh Wrote: I did a poor job of making my point. Yes, the Wailers in general are attacking the bands of poachers - Coeurlclaws and the like - but it's that dynamic (plus the attacks on Wailers by the poachers) that are coloring the perception of all Keepers in the Shroud. I was basically agreeing with you.
Ah I didn't catch that. Â Thanks for the clarification.
(09-21-2015, 03:59 PM)Setoh Aliapoh Wrote: That's how the Padjals tell it, but I'm not exactly sure if it jibes with the timeline.
Gridania was founded about 500 years ago, but Miqo'te entered Eorzea between 3-4000 years ago. Moonkeepers are predominantly found in the Shroud, so you'd have to argue that either Keepers appeared as distinct entities in the Twelveswood after the founding of Gridania, or that most of the Keepers migrated en masse from wherever they were living once Gridania pacified the Elementals. While either of those ideas are possible (especially if there's some sort of magical event that sparked the origin of Keepers as a distinct people), they don't seem especially probable.
Another possibility is the Keepers figured out a way to live in the Twelveswood prior to the creation of Gridania. This would cast the issues between Gridania and the Keepers in a different light. Instead of the Keepers being largely refugees who emigrated to the Shroud after the Pajdal made it safe, they would have been (relatively) indigenous inhabitants of the Twelveswood coming into conflict with the newcomer Gridanians.
Which may or may not be the case, but it's certainly an interesting idea!
That doesn't jive with the Lore. Â If anyone was able to figure a way to live openly in the Shroud prior to the Pact of Gelmorra, do honestly think anyone would have agreed to the Pact of Gelmorra? Â I mean, realistically?
The whole reason the Pact of Gelmorra happened at all was because no one could figure a way to live in the Shroud without the elementals eating them. Â That's the entire point of the pact.
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