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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? |
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11-05-2015, 04:48 PM
(10-21-2015, 04:08 PM)Vitamin C Wrote:
(10-21-2015, 04:00 PM)Smagon Wrote: So what I'm getting out of this (and a few other threads) is that the dark side was a unique thing that only happened to the first dark knight. Maybe it was genetics or something but whatever the case, no one else would be able to naturally develop a dark side and would have to pull it out manually via soul stone or being taught by another dark knight. On top of that, the dark knight style of magic would be unique to Eorzea and would not be seen anywhere else in the world because the only way to gain those powers is to be taught by another dark knight, and to be taught you would have to join their order of batmen, which would likely root you in Ishgard and the surrounding areas.

Just trying to clarify for my own sake so I know if some retconning needs to be done on my part.

The first DRK didn't initially have it. Darkness (The Abyss) is inside of everyone, Fray says this himself. It's Dark Knights that apply themselves (or have a soul crystal) that can harness the darkness within. It's not genetics. It's aether. This form of Dark Knights is unique to Ishgard as far as Eorzeans know, but there's nothing explicitly stating it couldn't have existed anywhere else, because being a dark knight is a philosophy that incites the power, not a 'literal' class unless you can actually channel the abyss.

However, yes, to be taught you'd have to learn from an Ishgardian that is one, loot a crystal from a dead body, or be so into being a knight that you go full murder-batman (I guess that'd be the Punisher) that you develop the power of your own accord while being fucked in the process.

I'm sure there are other ways, but it takes creativity and a lot of strict attentiveness to the lore that is presented until more comes out (probably with the zodiac questline.)

Oh, hello there. I just thought I would stop in quickly to point out that during the DRK quests, Fray points out that using DRK powers is not in fact the use of aether. He says it's "like weaving aether" or something along those lines, but not. I guess? Unless you're just talking about the crystal specifically. In which case, I'unno.

It's easier to acquaint DRKs with the Sith, only with more tangible results from their negative emotions, from what we've been able to see.

Honestly? This whole situation would be easier to gauge if Square did even the slightest explaining of what Soul Crystals were made of, and where they're made. As far as I know, anyway, it's not been explained. Part of me wants to justify it by saying that if a person has reached the height of their martial knowledge in any given branch, or experiences a strong rush of emotion, it can crystallize, therein conferring additional strength and abilities to the one it's bonded to. And they're subsequently passed down from master to student, or something along those lines.

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[Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by -no longer matters- - 08-03-2015, 05:25 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Virella - 08-03-2015, 05:37 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Oli! - 08-03-2015, 05:45 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-03-2015, 05:53 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-03-2015, 05:57 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-03-2015, 06:00 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Aaron - 08-03-2015, 05:59 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-03-2015, 06:01 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Aaron - 08-03-2015, 06:04 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-03-2015, 06:05 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Aaron - 08-03-2015, 06:19 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by ProvaDiServo - 08-03-2015, 06:28 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-03-2015, 06:08 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by ProvaDiServo - 08-03-2015, 06:16 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Sin - 08-03-2015, 06:40 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Draco Nobis - 08-03-2015, 09:20 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Val - 08-03-2015, 10:58 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Jessika Saphir - 08-03-2015, 11:28 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-03-2015, 11:40 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Dante Abigor - 08-03-2015, 11:42 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Steel Wolf - 08-04-2015, 12:22 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 04:23 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by A'kos Saiyal - 08-04-2015, 01:14 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Vitamin C - 08-04-2015, 03:09 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Jana - 08-04-2015, 03:46 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Cato - 08-04-2015, 03:56 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Seriphyn - 08-04-2015, 07:01 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Cato - 08-04-2015, 07:04 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by mongi291 - 08-04-2015, 07:27 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Corelyn - 08-04-2015, 07:27 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Aaron - 08-04-2015, 09:30 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 10:01 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Sin - 08-04-2015, 03:18 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 03:23 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Mercer - 08-04-2015, 06:49 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Fox - 08-04-2015, 10:00 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 10:10 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Fox - 08-04-2015, 10:15 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Aaron - 08-04-2015, 10:22 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Fox - 08-04-2015, 10:27 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Aaron - 08-04-2015, 10:29 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Fox - 08-04-2015, 10:44 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 10:33 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-04-2015, 11:29 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Talon Morrigan - 08-04-2015, 11:44 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 11:49 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Aaron - 08-04-2015, 11:53 AM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Fox - 08-04-2015, 12:03 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Sarnai Kha - 08-04-2015, 12:15 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-04-2015, 12:27 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Thorgar - 08-04-2015, 12:35 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Sarnai Kha - 08-04-2015, 12:37 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-04-2015, 12:40 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Virella - 08-04-2015, 12:53 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 01:02 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 12:56 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-04-2015, 12:59 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Sarnai Kha - 08-04-2015, 01:00 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Virella - 08-04-2015, 01:07 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Sarnai Kha - 08-04-2015, 01:11 PM
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RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Sarnai Kha - 08-04-2015, 01:24 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 01:26 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 01:12 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Virella - 08-04-2015, 01:25 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by -no longer matters- - 08-04-2015, 01:32 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Fox - 08-04-2015, 01:48 PM
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RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Mercer - 08-04-2015, 02:54 PM
RE: Dark Knights (Am I the only one?) - by Fox - 08-04-2015, 02:58 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Cato - 08-04-2015, 07:47 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Sylentmana - 08-05-2015, 08:42 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Melkire - 08-04-2015, 03:29 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Tumensuns - 08-06-2015, 09:56 AM
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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by -no longer matters- - 08-06-2015, 10:22 AM
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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Tumensuns - 08-06-2015, 10:40 AM
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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Vale - 08-21-2015, 02:10 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Fox - 08-21-2015, 02:22 AM
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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Cynel1 - 08-25-2015, 09:38 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Rufus Wightman - 09-21-2015, 03:40 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Steel Wolf - 09-21-2015, 04:10 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Vallerin Hortimont - 09-21-2015, 09:34 PM
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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Sig - 09-24-2015, 08:07 PM
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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Sarnai Kha - 09-25-2015, 12:35 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Lost River - 09-25-2015, 01:27 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by SicketySix - 09-25-2015, 08:36 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Aaron - 09-25-2015, 08:58 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Vyce - 09-25-2015, 09:03 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Sarnai Kha - 09-25-2015, 09:30 AM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Smagon - 09-25-2015, 02:30 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Sarnai Kha - 09-25-2015, 02:32 PM
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RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Sarnai Kha - 09-25-2015, 02:38 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Smagon - 09-25-2015, 02:38 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Vitamin C - 10-21-2015, 01:20 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Smagon - 09-25-2015, 02:45 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Sarnai Kha - 09-25-2015, 02:50 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by John Spiegel - 10-15-2015, 02:51 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Savarah - 10-15-2015, 03:49 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Xydane - 10-19-2015, 11:28 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Coatleque - 10-21-2015, 01:42 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by -no longer matters- - 10-21-2015, 01:45 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Aaron - 10-21-2015, 01:46 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by mongi291 - 10-21-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Warren Castille - 10-21-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Vitamin C - 10-21-2015, 03:18 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by FallenFedora - 10-21-2015, 02:10 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Smagon - 10-21-2015, 04:00 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by -no longer matters- - 10-21-2015, 04:04 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Vitamin C - 10-21-2015, 04:08 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Rufus Wightman - 11-05-2015, 04:48 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by PhantasticPanda - 10-21-2015, 04:15 PM
RE: [Spoilers] Dark Knights, Am I the Only One? - by Smagon - 10-21-2015, 04:19 PM

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