(11-12-2015, 05:17 AM)Ashe Wrote:(11-12-2015, 05:09 AM)mongi291 Wrote:My point is that there are plenty of things in FFXIV that are from other FF games but it doesn't mean that people from those games are just gonna randomly be coming in to Eorzea like Hey sup!(11-12-2015, 05:04 AM)Ashe Wrote: Honestly, saying something exists from some other FF game in FFXIV so it must exist is kind of really....I donno. All FF games do this.Actually, Cloud of Darkness might be the same as FF3, just like Gilgamesh which is always the same in all games. But for the rest, they're probably different things.
There is an entire wiki that lists all of the FF game references in FFXIV.
Some of the obvious ones:
FF3 allusions in the Allagan backstory. Is FF3 the prequel to this game? No >>
Matoya and Matoya's cave is from FF1. Did she and her cave travel to Eorzea? Probably not.
Elidibus is a summoner in Tactics and he has the summon Zodiark. Did he suddenly decide to become an Ascian and appear in Eorzea and use his summon to destroy Hydaelyn? Prolly not.
Golden Saucer in VII
Magiteck from VI
Cloud of Darkness from 3 (first note)
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The tactics gear from the 60 dungeons...
Everything in this link:Â http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Final.../Allusions
All FF games do this too. Not just FFXIVÂ
You can take it for what it is...but in my personal opinion, it'd be best to just remake the character FOR Eorzea...
I did not play FFXI 'cause no PC and I didn't really grow up with internet anyways...but regardless of the story I think it's highly unlikely that they would end up in Eorzea.
Aaaah quick edit:
FF3 and 4 and tactics seem to have more in common with Eorzea stuff than FFXI outside of the face. A lot of the MMO core lore (time/spacial keeping, general race look--which was standard for more than just FFXI...a lot of game shave human-like, elf-like, animal-like, little people-like races--and what not)may have been from FFXI, but lore wise, it's not really connected. A lot of character models seem to be the same and some names (like xys is an upscaled version of abc)...but there's not much story impact from what I'm reading.
The past, present, and future of the world of Hydaelyn may not be connected to the world of FFXI, but canonically they exist in the same network of universes that Shantotto is canonically able to traverse at will, as well as move others with her. Shantotto is a Black Mage but also pretty much the equivalent of a dimensional witch.
XI and XIV do not exist in the same universe, but Square Enix subscribes to the idea that all worlds ever created exist in a blob of universes. The IRL world, the Disney worlds, Narnia, the Final Fantasy worlds, the World of Warcraft worlds...basically these universes come into existence and become a part of the grand network of universes.
But some universes are harder to move between than others. The Warcraft universe and the FF14 universe are so entirely different that moving between them is near impossible. FF14 and FF11, and all the other FF worlds have so many fundamental similarities that someone like Shantotto can freely move between them.
Yes, technically Enix recycles ideas and iconizes them, but the very fact that the same deities and eidolons exist throughout the universes is a very sturdy bridge that allows dimensional travel.
If you want to get down to it, every videogame ever made (with the exception of direct sequels and expansions i.e Infamous/Infamous: Second Son) added a new universe to the web of universes, because someone wrote that world and its past, present, and future into existence.
Even more meta:
(insert stoner meme)
What if we are all ambient NPCs in a video game that a company in a world similar to ours made, and all the Hollywood stars are the RPers wish-fulfillment Mary-Sues?
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