(11-17-2015, 12:49 PM)Oli! Wrote:(11-17-2015, 12:39 PM)ChaosMAJORA Wrote: perhaps the concern isn't so much whether the words have a place - or even a home in the Ezorean dialect, which as you rightly stated may be the case - so much as whether they'd be used in the same context as we would use them RL?
Yes, this is part of the argument. "Cunt" is believed to be obscene at least by Shakespeare's time. "Fuck" has been used sexually since at least 1310. "Whoreson," "Whoremonger," and other such things, are common insults in Shakespeare's plays. "Fuck" has been an adjective / intensifier grammatically since 1528 (and has still been used as a descriptor of sorts in the 1310 example). Even the first usage of "I don't give a fuck" is older than the insulting use of "lap dog," surfacing in 1790 and beating it by almost 200 years.
These words, and their "modern" usages, have been around for a while.
There's the key then, I acknowledge: the word's modern usage, and whether or not the same usage is relevant in Ezorea.
That actually brings me to a bit of a 'middle ground' in this thought track; have we sufficient evidence to suggest - or even confirm - that these colloquialisms/curses have historical grounding in Ezorea's lore? Or are our characters, by words based on our OOC tongue, giving them a place by evolving the dialect in a very real, and fair way?
I believe I see what you're getting at: whether or not the word "fuck" has a place in Ezorea may not be the issue, so much as whether or not a word meaning the same, usable in the same setting may be 'the norm' - in which case, we merely use "fuck" as a placeholder for the 'Ezorean' word!
I'm sorry to drone on, but this is nothing short of fascinating to discuss - as a Literature graduate. ^_^
