More than the Dzemael Darkhold being a cave thing, House Dzemael has been said to be of DW ancestry since 1.0, when we first got DH as a dungeon. The whacky part of the time line comes with the exact timing of when Gelmorra fell and when Ishgard was founded, sorta. We know Ishgard existed when Gelmorra fell because people like Koji-Fox have told us that some DW's went to Ishgard as refugees in the aftermath. The founding legend of Ishgard states that Dzemael was there when Thordan did his thing and the Dragonsong war started 1000 or so years ago. Still, migrating from Gelmorra to "proto-Ishgard" is a thing that cannot be ruled out.Â
As a side note, we know that there was a gap of time between when the DW and WW technically split and the fall of Gelmorra. WW made their deal with the Elementals, Gridania (or proto-Grid) was founded, then Gelmorra was ordered destroyed by will of the Elementals, and the DW scattered to the winds. It gets even more wacky when we add the fact that we have been told small minorities of WW chose not to fall under the yoke of the Elementals and remained in Gelmorra with the DWs. So what exactly are they? DWs by association? It is convoluted, but what we DO know is that the whole WWs and DWs splittin and hating each other stems from the pact with the Elementals and the fall of Gelmorra. Yar.
As a side note, we know that there was a gap of time between when the DW and WW technically split and the fall of Gelmorra. WW made their deal with the Elementals, Gridania (or proto-Grid) was founded, then Gelmorra was ordered destroyed by will of the Elementals, and the DW scattered to the winds. It gets even more wacky when we add the fact that we have been told small minorities of WW chose not to fall under the yoke of the Elementals and remained in Gelmorra with the DWs. So what exactly are they? DWs by association? It is convoluted, but what we DO know is that the whole WWs and DWs splittin and hating each other stems from the pact with the Elementals and the fall of Gelmorra. Yar.
