(01-02-2016, 02:53 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(12-31-2015, 10:13 AM)Kage Wrote: The FC leader in this instance is one of those I honestly would not mind naming and shaming on the official forum or here but alas.
Unfortunately, in this instance, I do not believe the GM even knew what the problem (what kept everyone from just leaving) is or was. They didn't have the power to do anything about the housing keeping them locked issue (I'm at work but I've read a few things here or there about what usual powers GMs have and don't have.) but they really should have dealt with the issue involved with the FC leader griefing people.
Tiergan, with Tiergan's FC help, was only able to recreate the issue in a -very specific- circumstance. Guest Access to the Estate must be turned off. The GMs, most likely as most of us didn't know, that people couldn't remove furnishings if they have 0 privileges, No Estate Hall Access -AND- Guests cannot enter the estate.
Okay, but, it's been known for literally months that an FC Leader could do this. Â If they lock you out of the house, you can't reclaim your shit, if you can't reclaim your shit, you can't demolish your room. Â If you can't demolish your room, you can't leave the FC. Â This was known literally on day 1 of the patch that implemented private rooms in FC houses.
The idea that a GM - a freaking Game Master - could simply be unaware that this was possible is, quite frankly, inexcusable. Â Do they not play the same game that we play? Â Are they stupid? Â Is support composed of three baboons sitting around playing with their own feces? Â How in god's name could they just not know? Â I mean, unless support is composed of blithering idiots?
Edited to Add: I think it's a hell of a lot more likely that support simply doesn't have a tool built into their client that would allow them to take control of the FC and rectify the situation. Â Either that, or they're falling back on the old idea that the FC Leader literally owns the FC and everyone and everything within the house. Â But that would be dumb.
What I mean is that a lot of people could not replicate the issue. Even though most of us have played with housing since it came out. No one I knew of could actually describe exactly what was the problem until after this situation happened. So yes I can believe them not knowing -then-. Just because someone says it has happened doesn't mean everyone knows how or what to fix. There were a -lot- of responses saying "uh we just did x y and z and we still were able to remove stuff just fine." "Did they actually even try?" If you have a room, no rights, you can still remove your furnishings, demolish and check yourself out. Even two months afterwards people still go "uh I replicated this myself by putting myself in a rank with 0 privs and had no issues removing furnishings are you sure they were actually locked in?"
What I am pretty sure of though is that they didn't have any such tool that would actually remove a leader or change leaders.
I have met a few FC leaders who do view the FCs as "theirs" and all the members' accomplishments as theirs when they have done nothing to receive such praise. /salty
I've spoken to a few GMs over harassment issues and a few of them (because I can't remember the names of the ones I've spoken to just that they have been different before) have spoken as if they've played the game a bit. But the GMs aren't QA.
