(02-07-2016, 04:36 PM)Virella Wrote:And Ninjutsu was a sacred secret to be used in the defense of one's village or superior by channeling the will of local elemental spirits. Did not stop the Garleans from snagging it, and adapting it whole cloth for their own uses. They won't have Fists of Rhalgr, no. They will have Fists of the Empire. Fists against heresy.Â(02-07-2016, 04:30 PM)Josuke Wrote:Monk = Fist. Just another word for them.Quote:Being a Monk or Fist of Rhalgr is not a fighting style, it is a lifestyle. They are warpriests, not just regular fighters with a fancy style of kicking people around.
An ordinary fist fighter? Yeah sure. Everyone can be that. Fists/Monks are a product of the constant war the Highlander clans back in Gyr Abania had going on. They are bunch of religious zealots.
Ala Mhigans are shown off to have a distaste for outsiders if you do the Little Ala Mhigo quests. Stuck in their old ways, wary of a lot of things. I'd simply can't see a Fist, especially back in Ala Mhigo going "Welp lets train this outsider who never heard of the Twelve, Rhalgr, praises other Gods, looks like a voidsent, and isn't one of ours". Racism and prejudices be real in Eorzea. (However a non Highlander Monk, but still an Ala Mhigan? Oh yes, that is very much possible!)
There is however Wildaderp and his Monk training business going on now in Mor Dhona, but that is a recent thing. And even that I take with a grain of salt on how successful that is on a short term. Excluding the WoL, becoming a Monk isn't an overnight deal.
Surely maybe some odd same alike type of thing could have happened in some part in Othard. Surely some lost Monk could have ended up wandering into Othard and teaching some au ra. But would it make for a good story, or would you end up as a special exceptions? As I said, it is a way of living, not of fighting.
It be like an Othardian Dragoon. It wouldn't make sense. Fists, Dragoons (and hells even Astrologians) are a very specific city-state thing. There are loopholes to make it work, but eh. It doesn't make for a convincing character to me.
So wait..All monks are/were Fists of Rhalgr or taught by them? I recall reading that there are also non-Fist monks even in Ala Mhigo. Are there not others that are similar but not in that group?
And no, Garleans wouldn't have Fists, simply from the fact the Garleans /hate/ Twelve, or any God, worship. Fists are build on the foundation of destroying things in the name of... the Destroyer. And the Mad King purged nearly all Monks on top of that. And ruined their temples. Made their knowledge be a near lost thing. Even in the 50-60 Monk quests the two NPCs have issues finding anything to read up about some Monk lore, seeming there is so little left due to the Mad Kings nonsense.
As I said, the Fists of Rhalgr do not have a lock down on spiritual based martial arts, or martial bent spirituality. Ask Ishgard, or the Empire. Nor do they have a lock on channeling aether using the body. It all depends on your definition of Monk. Monk the Job is someone trained in the style and way of the Fists. Monk the concept of a warrior who improves body and spirit in tandem, somewhat more universal.
Also, to speak to Josuke's question, Chakra is just another name for Aether. Monk bro and Scientist Bud spell this out specifically in the pre-50 Monk quests.
