(02-07-2016, 04:53 PM)Yssen Wrote:Shadow*(02-07-2016, 04:48 PM)Virella Wrote:Save for the Dark Chakra sect which was never purged because they left before it happened.(02-07-2016, 04:39 PM)Josuke Wrote:The Monk quests do show off that people can open it without being Fists. However, it only seemed to have happened to the WoL so far. No other NPC has shown off to suddenly unlock their first chakra. The rest are all being trained by Monks, or are Monks already.(02-07-2016, 04:36 PM)Virella Wrote:(02-07-2016, 04:30 PM)Josuke Wrote: So wait..All monks are/were Fists of Rhalgr or taught by them? I recall reading that there are also non-Fist monks even in Ala Mhigo. Are there not others that are similar but not in that group?Monk = Fist. Just another word for them.
And no, Garleans wouldn't have Fists, simply from the fact the Garleans /hate/ Twelve, or any God, worship. Fists are build on the foundation of destroying things in the name of... the Destroyer. And the Mad King purged nearly all Monks on top of that. And ruined their temples. Made their knowledge be a near lost thing. Even in the 50-60 Monk quests the two NPCs have issues finding anything to read up about some Monk lore, seeming there is so little left due to the Mad Kings nonsense.
Well, Like I was mentioning...Opening chakras, is that a purely a thing only A Fist of Rhalgr was capable of? Could not other fighters find similar paths to opening or even using Chakra, with different fighting techniques?
But I'd highly suggest not going down that route, seeming it is a Fist of Rhalgr thing. They have a whole philosophy surrounding it. Hells, they even have TRADITIONS around it. For example, it used to be a tradition that fully unlocked sect Monks would go duel another fully (and opposite) sect Monk opened to the death in a honourable fight.
I... It would be just as odd as saying an Limsa pirate very randomly one day, on his own how, figured out to do Mudras, while it is a thing originating from Othard.
@Yssen once more.
Temple Purge. Mad King. Monks gone poof. Monks be very rare. Knowledge Lost. Scriptures and scrolls gone.
It is a thing only very few know. Ninjas weren't purged by their OWN people before the Garleans came.
And they were hidden into obscurity. They were banished from the Fists of Rhalgr.
http://i.imgur.com/mmDmmS6.png
http://i.imgur.com/VtmDsrP.png
They weren't running around in massive numbers, flaunting their shit off. If anything, they were hidden away somewhere else after the Light Sect fucked them over.
And the pact set with the Monks and royality? It probably happened about 120 years ago after the Autmn War. Unless they are speaking about the King of Ruin. But this is my best guess.
Gylbarde's victory brought him ever greater accolades from his country, and as a result both he and the Fist of Rhalgr came to wield considerable political power.
Through affiliation with the Ala Mhigan royal family, the Fist of Rhalgr was incorporated into the nation's standing army. This not only granted the monks a great deal of power, but furnished them with all of the rights accorded protectors of the citizenry. And their political influence was still growing...
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/39515-Want-Lore-History-Here-you-go!-%28Possible-Spoilers%29
If the Ala Mhigan scholar, and one of the remaining Light sect Monks can't find shit on the Shadow Sect Monks basically, then well. I come to the conclusion the Garleans probably didn't do it either. And Fists, Monks, or however you want to call them just don't work without the religious nonsense. It is what they are based of. Religion is the very central thing in their very being. Garleans don't allow that.
Surely aether infused fighter, fine, that can happen. But it wouldn't be Monks or Fists or whatever you want to call them, as their knowledge is basically near completely lost.
And if opening chakras was such a normal, everyday occurrence, why don't we see Joe the Farmer running around with flame fists and throwing hadoukens around? WoL is a special snowflake. Keep that in mind. Rest seems to be all trained by Monks, or are Monks who are capable of unlocking them.
