(03-14-2016, 09:31 PM)McBeef© Wrote:(03-14-2016, 09:07 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: I realize this is hyperbole, but, not entirely accurate. Nym and Qarn both got wiped out by plague.I bet we'll find out eventually the plague was caused by trying to build a portal to the henceforth unmentioned realm of disease or something.
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(03-15-2016, 11:34 AM)Momo Wrote: Another thing, how do we know that Raub doesn't have a soulstone, literally I am curious if this is mentioned or just assumed? Â Because the commander of the Sultansworn...I am just not sure he doesn't have a soulstone unless there is proof otherwise. Â Not that it matters! Â I am just curious! Hahaha
Warren's already corrected the Sultansworn bit. What I wanted to add was that Raubahn Aldynn, unlike the poor excuse for gladiators in 2.0, actually fought on the Bloodsands in Ul'dah, making him an actual gladiator. Hence class, not job. No soulstone needed. Remember, "classes" are (for the most part) current Eorzean-specific professions whose knowledge and techniques are taught in an Eorzean guild. "Jobs" are older/ancient professions that are no longer used in Eorzea at large.
Hence a soulstone's usefulness, as it houses souls and memories of past wielders. Soulstones do not empower the wielder, they do not increase their strength or magical ability. They house memories which allows us to learn skills more rapidly. There are certain professions which require a soulstone to utilize the memories/talents, but there is not a single soulstone which empowers a person to perform beyond their normal physique. (okay, Gem of Shatotto is debatable...)
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(03-15-2016, 03:52 PM)Arklonn Sargonnai Wrote: As I recall, you could cross-class skills in 1.0 as well, but in a very different manner. It could just be they're using skills from other classes, or even skills they created themselves. I remember that one of the Heavens' Ward is able to combine thaumaturgy with weapon play to imbue lightning into his weapon in one of the in-game references. I can't recall which but I know it's there. so it's entirely possible that people like Raubahn with a lot of combat experience have created their own fighting techniques.
Here's the quote you were looking for, translated from Dengeki Online:
Ser Hermenost the Thunderous Wrote:A veteran from the previous Lord Commander’s tenure, Hermenost was originally a friar in the service of Halone, and is known as a particularly devout man. Although he wields an axe on the battlefield, he is also a skilled mage, and devised a unique method of combat that involves imbuing his axe with lightning.
That said, Raubahn, as well as several other gladiators from 1.0 and 2.0 have devised their own unique swordplay that uses aether manipulation. Rage of Halone is actually a special technique created by Greinfarr the Great. When he uses it, his sword bursts into purple flame. Raubahn does his flame thrower sword thingy. Obviously, Ilberd does something similar. On the one hand, you can say that this seems to be a common enough occurrence to say its common practice to imbue your blade with aether/elements. On the other hand, all noted figures doing something to this effect have been incredibly skilled disciples of their class.
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(03-15-2016, 11:57 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: It's heavily implied multiple times in the MSQ that Tancredo is really, REALLY old. Possibly immortal.
Y'shtola has used abilities from multiple jobs (or, at least, things that LOOK like those abilities). I'm not sure what she is, but I'm sure shes NOT a Conjurer (or, at least, that isn't her main source of power). Probably 90% of what she uses bears no resemblance to Conjury, for all that she carries a wand.
Umm, where are you getting this? Thancred is only 32~33 years old.
The Walker's Path Wrote:Perpetually passing by, Thancred had drifted in and out of Minfilia’s life for years. He had been seventeen when they first met—five years her senior.
Y'shtola and her sister Y'mhitra are both, for all intents and purposes conjurers. They use elemental-based magic, channel through a wand of unworked wood, and are furthermore identified in the game as conjurers. Now, are they Gridanian conjurers? Certainly not. Y'shtola has a mastery of conjury, but considering her upbringing at the Sharlayan Studium, as well as being personally tutored by Matoya, it makes sense that she's familiar in many varied forms of Sharlayan magicks. Hence the bubble, teleportation, decoying, bullet-deflecting, and bullet-dodging magicks she wields.
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Despite being born in the Shroud, the practice of Conjury isn't limited to just there. As demonstrated by Ishgard's Scholasticate teaching conjury and thaumaturgy. If the Ishgardians have learned it, you can bet the Sharlayans have as well.
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(03-15-2016, 04:44 PM)Glioca Sargonnai Wrote: That said, with Sharlayan's being as focused on magic and learning as they are, I could definitely see it being something along the lines of Y'shtola knowing multiple forms of magic and study, because 'magic' seems to be her field, not just one specific form of magic.
She is well-versed in magical learning, yes, but Y'shtola's chosen field of study is actually ancient languages/religious texts interestingly enough. She's a Sage of Exegesis.
Y'shtola Wrote:The “mark of the sages†is attributed to persons whose knowledge in a given field has been recognized by the Sharlayan scientific community. To bear it is an honor that belongs to the most elite of our scholars. I don’t want to say that we exegetes are better than the other Sharlayan scholars, but there is no doubt that we have done our best to achieve excellence. Every one of us has a specialty. This allows us to cover large areas of knowledge, yet still research them thoroughly.
Phew, okay. All caught up in this thread. Will tackle General Lore tomorrow. @_@;
