(06-08-2013, 12:37 AM)Yssen Wrote: A whole bunch of squiggly word-type things what I agree with whole-heartedly.
Thank you. The very idea that someone can't do whatever they please with a character (provided that it still makes sense to the overworld they inhabit) in a game of makebelieve is straight-up weird.
(06-08-2013, 12:37 AM)Aysun Wrote: Well, if you knew anything about my character in particular, you'd know that I very much am in support of deviating from the conventions provided. I avoid the tribalness, nunh-tia stuff like the plague with my character.
Yeah, I don't. I don't have any idea who your character is. I'll freely admit that. The point was made in general. Building a character solely around race is crazy. It's how you end up with a really, really bland character.
Example: Quick, describe Orlando Bloom's Legolas without resorting to goofy Elf tropes or general appearance! Go!
(06-08-2013, 12:37 AM)Aysun Wrote: In game, there are plenty of examples of those within the cities still displaying racism, which suggests to me that there still IS some "purity" in the races, even when they've moved on from their tribal roots, per your example.
Why would you assume this is the majority, rather than an ugly minority? They're highlighted. That's to draw attention to a detail. You don't highlight the entire text.
(06-08-2013, 12:37 AM)Aysun Wrote: May I offer this for you as a Miqo'te characteristic of an individual raised in Ul'dah their entire life: obviously the physical "they are a Miqo'te" characteristic. o_o While my character was raised only around ONE other Miqo'te, her mother, she still displays characteristics of her race because it's in her genes. She still has that solitary nature to an extent. Instinct, baby. The races are physically different, as well. We have different starting stats for a reason. She may excel at the more "stereotypical Miqo'te job" of Archery for that reason.While a character should be more than just their race, their race is a part of them and contributes to their interactions with others.
Oh, please. As if other races don't have solitary individuals? Hunters? That can't possibly be your argument here. Then there's the issue of starter stats. You mean those things that are so incredibly insignificant as to affect no real difference in play and viability over the entire course of the game? Those? The things that are mathematically insignificant (the smallest kind of "insignificant" there is!)? No. No, no, no. Will not do as supporting evidence.
(06-08-2013, 12:37 AM)Aysun Wrote: My point is that, TO ME (and no one has to agree, I'm not saying that, I'm just discussing my point of view), race is intertwined with the character in such a way that retconning to a new race would change the character so much that it just doesn't make sense to call it the same one.
Which is dandy fine, but let's not try to frame that as anything but an opinion.
(06-08-2013, 12:37 AM)Aysun Wrote: Please calm down. We were not attacking your friend and her decision to change her race, we were simply stating our opinions on the matter.
You're mistaking my tone. I don't swear only when I'm angry, I just swear constantly. I'm not angry. I'm not upset. The case against just makes positively zero sense to me.
And while you may not have used anything that could even remotely be considered "incendiary language", and are therefore not technically attacking anyone, it has been made clear that people find the very notion that someone might flop around with a character just oh-so-very-ghastly. And that's also dandy-fine.
It should then be perfectly acceptable for you to hear the other side of that argument (the one for doing whatever you goddamned please) without attaching any kind of subtext of hostility.
Deal?
