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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) |
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06-09-2016, 02:18 AM
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(06-09-2016, 12:41 AM)Seriphyn Wrote: Sultana, you fail. Ishgard beat you to republicanism, and you've been dragging your feet for a year.

When I first heard the word 'republic', I was hoping this didn't instantly mean democracy. Ishgard could have been a republic under the rule of the noble houses, where only the nobles elected rulers from among themselves. I suppose that wouldn't fit the narrative of how the lowborn were exploited by the religious nobility for centuries, however.
Well, in a sense, the clergy also exploited the highborn as well for their war. By separating church from state - you give more power to the high houses, whom no longer need religious motivations to do what they want. While the highborn base a lot off their legitimacy off religious reasons, it doesn't change the fact that they're essentially the rulers of the nation, with or without that Halonic legitimacy; since there are many men who are honestly loyal to them, as exemplified by some of the quests you do.

Mind, they have to contend with the House of Commons, but they're also one of the only sources of funding and connections in a historically isolated nation-state that can support those trying to get elected in the Commons. It's the same as with what would have happened in Ul'dah; although the latter would probably be worse, since it's apparently a tradition to bribe people there.
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Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 08:42 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Teadrinker - 06-08-2016, 08:58 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Unnamed Mercenary - 06-08-2016, 09:21 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Saravahn - 06-09-2016, 07:48 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Caspar - 06-08-2016, 10:39 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Telluride - 06-08-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Yssen - 06-08-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Virella - 06-08-2016, 10:24 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 10:55 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Unnamed Mercenary - 06-08-2016, 10:58 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Caspar - 06-08-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Simeon Sibaruse - 06-08-2016, 11:13 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 11:17 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Caspar - 06-08-2016, 11:21 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Aaron - 06-08-2016, 11:40 AM
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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Aya - 06-09-2016, 09:23 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Seriphyn - 06-09-2016, 12:41 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by LystAP - 06-09-2016, 02:18 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Teadrinker - 06-09-2016, 05:07 AM
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