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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) |
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06-09-2016, 11:06 AM
(06-09-2016, 10:44 AM)Flynt Knoltros Wrote:
(06-09-2016, 10:26 AM)S Wrote: I seriously doubt Ishgard is going to be a happy joyful place. With the separation of church and state a lot of people are going to be losing a lot of power. They probably won't be as open about how they were functioning last patch or the one before, where they were kidnapping and all that stuff. Probably slowly and carefully undermine the new Republic. 

The other thing is that these people who have been influenced for longer than a a thousand years are still going to be influenced by those teachings. They may know there's a lot of lies but it's doubtful they're going to just give up their beliefs entirely. 

You've got this new government with two ruling bodies, the lowborn aren't going to just start liking the highborn.now that they got more power they're going to use that against them. 

Those are just my personal opinion on the matter, though se will probably just go with happy land.
I don't think we will see super happy hand holding land, but I do think the foundation has been set for the next generation or the one after to be. Much of what was done to me implies that, the old ways and people of Ishgard are on the way out (from how SE will continue to depict things), it won't be perfect but they are going that way. Maybe it is thinking far too into it, but Dragoons are kind of representation of Ishgard, and the journey of Estinien parallels the city itself. He's still got his issues and stuff to figure out, (as does the city) but things systemically are changed permanently. Dragoons roles are different, the churches role is different, the high born and low born are different. There will be hiccups, but the path SE sees is very much there.
Pretty much this ^^^^^^

I've heard a lot of people say they're disappointed at how Ishgard and the game turned out for this patch. At the same time...I feel like most roleplayers aren't taking time to sit and actually comprehend the true gravity of what happened and the views that we do not see.

1000 year war just ended. That's huge. That's over ten generations worth of fighting and suffering and heartache and dragons and mortals alike being slaughtered. SE wrapped it up pretty nicely because as a WoL you're sort of at the top caste with a lot of help and bigger things to worry about but shiiiiiiiitttttttttt. People like Estinien who have lost everyone and everything is the norm.

Nobles aren't going to stop being petty and manipulative. The lower class will not stop being destitute. While the foundations of change have been laid down and we're led to believe that the majority crave this peace...at the same time? There's likely dozens of smaller problems and bellyaching that are just as significant for stories and roleplay. Hell, my main's daughters are descended from Ishgard on their father's side. I had a big ol' story for them too but when the MSQ pointed in this direction? I'll just keep going because their dear old great uncle is going to be a dick regardless of the current peace.

SE incorporates a lot of selective perspective in their story. The MSQ is just one angle that we get to see of a much larger story. It's centric on the WoL and the allies they have along the way. While we glean lore and insight from that selective perspective, it's still just a selective perspective on the story. This is an entire world we're dealing with and SE can only cover so much at a time. As roleplayers, we fill in the rest of the world with living, breathing stories of our own.

As long as you're not wanting to suddenly fight a primal or become king of Ishgard? I say go for whatever stories you have. Tweak here and there to make it a bit more believable but otherwise just go for it.

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Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 08:42 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Teadrinker - 06-08-2016, 08:58 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Unnamed Mercenary - 06-08-2016, 09:21 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Saravahn - 06-09-2016, 07:48 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 09:51 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Caspar - 06-08-2016, 10:39 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Telluride - 06-08-2016, 10:57 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Yssen - 06-08-2016, 05:51 PM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Virella - 06-08-2016, 10:24 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 10:27 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 10:55 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Unnamed Mercenary - 06-08-2016, 10:58 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Caspar - 06-08-2016, 11:14 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Simeon Sibaruse - 06-08-2016, 11:13 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 11:17 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Caspar - 06-08-2016, 11:21 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-08-2016, 11:28 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Aaron - 06-08-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Momoka - 06-08-2016, 11:40 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Virella - 06-08-2016, 11:42 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Momoka - 06-08-2016, 11:45 AM
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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Zelmanov - 06-08-2016, 05:01 PM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by McBeefâ„¢ - 06-08-2016, 05:06 PM
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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Kellach Woods - 06-08-2016, 07:07 PM
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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Parvacake - 06-08-2016, 09:02 PM
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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Kellach Woods - 06-09-2016, 07:31 AM
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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by LystAP - 06-09-2016, 02:18 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Teadrinker - 06-09-2016, 05:07 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by McBeefâ„¢ - 06-09-2016, 05:18 AM
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RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Parvacake - 06-09-2016, 11:06 AM
RE: Ishgard, post 3.3 (OBVIOUSLY SPOILERS FOR MSQ) - by Warren Castille - 06-09-2016, 10:49 AM
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