(06-24-2016, 08:33 PM)Momo Wrote: Is there no chance that this could come to peace between all parties? There is a petition to Parliament already at enough signatures to be seen, though I am certain they can just drop it after looking at it for one second.
If immigration rules can be reconsidered for each individual nation, and Scottland be allowed back in, perhaps some reason could be seen to help settle much of the EU? The pound's dropping worth is also something I feel they should consider, since the EU has been doing so well by world standards since its creation.
As someone who has always appreciated the cultural differences of the European countries, and their ability to, when needed, work things out in the recent lifetimes, I would hate to see that standard be broken in this manner.
(To be clear, I am of the US, so I am mostly asking what can be done, if anything, to help resolve this)
I'm not totally sure where you are getting at so my apologies in advance if I understood wrongly...
In any case, on immigration, the thing with the UK is that the country is not integrated at the same level than say, founding nations (Germany, France, Italy, Benelux). They are not part of the eurozone, not part of the free move Schengen zone (unlike Iceland by the way, which is not even a member and that is funny), and the latter means that immigration has always been controled as the UK saw it fit rather than to the european letter. They had deals with France in the north of the country so that they could directly exert that level of control here, upstream, before they get on the island proper.
All in all, immigration in the EU has been pretty much left to every member unlike many other things, and most countries are doing a bit what they want on the matter, as we have seen with the recent fiasco around all the Middle East refugees (the opposition between northern countries that did what they could to welcome the most of it, and eastern and southern Europe that groaned a lot not to do it, or outright closed their borders like Hungary).
For Scotland being allowed back in, it's... an incredibly arduous process: you already need two years to enact article 50 to leave the Union. That article has never been used up until now and was actually rushed in haste into the existing Lisbon Accords when the EU constitution was scrapped due to various referendums 10 years ago (in Ireland, France, etc... well I can only speak for France where that constitution was deemed way too liberal/capitalistic for most people). So it means it will be even harder since it will be the first time with the UK. The UK are also waiting for their next Prime Minister to enact it, which delays the thing even further.
At the same time we have Scotland that wants a new referendum because, quoting Sturgeon "The priority is on the interests of Scotland and they don't want to leave the EU against their will, due to someone else decision". We don't even know where this is going, but if Westminster even allows that to begin with, then you might agree that an independence process for them might take a bit of time too. They have to first leave the UK, then join back the EU. Not a small feat, you will agree.
Then comes the other major hurdle, which is getting back into the EU. Because willingly or not, Scotland will have in essence left the Union, and like the UK, will have to start negotiating back all those agreements from scratch, and even more in their case, they will have to actually apply to be a member again. Those applications takes a lot of years, or decades sometimes. I'm sure it can be sped up a little bit since they were already part of it, but you see the issue. That's the bureaucratic side of the giant that the EU administration has turned into.
So it's only the beginning and I'm afraid that to have answers, we will have to wait a certain amount of years/time now, because nobody really knows where all of this is going...
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