(10-09-2016, 12:54 PM)Valence Wrote:(10-09-2016, 09:03 AM)Qwynn Wrote: I guess that depends on how you view both the dynamics of Keeper families and polyamory both?
There's a lot of scenarios: A Keeper woman with a primary partner that remains with the family and who has multiple other traveling partners who she has had children with; A Keeper woman with a primary partner who travels as well as multiple other traveling partners she has had children with; A Keeper woman without a primary partner at all, yet various traveling partners she has had children with.
Any scenario where multiple, consenting partners are involved and who all know there are multiple partners involved would be polyamory, no? Of course, I'm working under the assumption said couplings with a goal of children are actual relationships and not one-offs (which would indeed happen as well).
Polyamory isn't necessarily physically at the same time.
Keeper Woman has children with Keeper Man 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, & 6. Three and five were one-night stands and accidental children. One, two, four, and six she is in relationships with and cares deeply for. That'd be a type of polyamory.
And that's only considering heterosexuality!
The nice thing though is that since we have so little lore, and Keeper families aren't really establishes like Seeker tribes are, players can use their own interpretations of what they're given for their own Keeper families. Since I'm sure each family does things just a little differently.
Well that's the thing. I don't necessarily go against the idea of Keeper females entertaining several relationships at the same time, but I don't see how they would somehow do it more than other races. Because of Seekers and their harems maybe? Yeah, they are of the same race for sure. But that seems to me more about societal traditions rather than genetical ones no?
So yeah, it's possible. Is it more frequent or a defining trait of the Keeper clans? I don't think so, or at least nothing to my eyes seems to hint in that direction... Ah well, perhaps the fact that they generally don't have lasting relationships (cf Masha's quote above), so since they don't envision relationships the same way, and see them as flirtatious and momentous relationships without commitment and years ahead in the future, then... maybe several at a time, as I said above, is a possibility, but considering how rare males showing up at the same time are...
The thing is, you seem to think that lasting relationships are part of Keeper clans as well, and yet, everything I read in the lore seems to say otherwise, aka, brief relationships before the male leaves. As I said above I see nothing that prevents an odd, peculiar male to appear and who will pair with an equally odd, peculiar female... Especially in Keeper societies living in cities, where they probably see a lot more (sometimes recurring) males around...?
But yeah, lore seems to go in the other direction.
So are you suggesting Keepers don't have lasting relationships at all between men and women, then? (With the exception of familial ones: Mothers and sons, etc).
I'd honestly accept everyone as queer. That's a good outcome, too.
We also don't really know what constitutes brief. Is it a day? A week? A month? Anything not permanent?
I guess the catch is that how we define monogamy, polyamory, and relationships is not necessarily the same as how Keepers would define them as such. From an outside perspective (that is, as a human player looking at the structure) it looks like a type of polyamory to me, but not to you! And that's okay!
We just interrupted the same scrapes of lore slightly differently.
