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Think its about time to come back to this thread. Was surprised at the focus of the discussion more than anything.
I do /not/ believe that the revelation of a 30 person crew invalidates any previous Dragoon RP from anyone barring extreme statements such as (we lost 200 that day or the sort)
to me 30 is a large enough number to fudge. You'll never run into something with 30 + Dragoons in RP all at once. Only rub I can see here is that thirty is TOO small for any Dragoon to /NOT/ know another dragoon. Its a high school class and you'll at least be able to know their name and appearance ESPECIALLY because there are your teammates, your brothers in arms, your peers, your equals. Being a Knight Dragoon now carries with it a minor agreement to share information with other Knight Dragoon RP'ers you choose to socialize with, such as conceding prior knowledge of at least name to them. As opposed to before where I had believed that the group was large enough (numbering in several hundreds) that two dragoons could be strangers to each other. This is now more akin to SOLDIER than say SEED for the sake of FF equivalents.
I had more issue in CONTINUING to RP as an active service Dragoon. Even I, in respect to lore had to forcefully retire Orrin even though personality wise he's the sort to die with a weapon in his hands. I have my RP reasons for why Orrin can accept not being on the front lines anymore but that's not important to the discussion.
My topic title is admittedly click bait-y and overly dramatic but it was still accurate in response to being an /actively/ serving Knight Dragoon.Â
1 free spot is too exclusive in my books, its akin to being the WOL in claim. I'd have less issue with saying you were part of the group that helped NOAH in the crystal tower saga or even the current void ark saga than being that last Dragoon, because being on the WOL's short list of 23 other pals is much less exclusive than being the singular actively serving Dragoon while the rest are occupied by NPC spots.
So whilst I must lay down Orrin's lance, I /do not/ believe that all his RP for 2 years prior has been invalidated and that others who feel that way can be assured that they can still claim to HAVE BEEN a Dragoon. Remember the book is MOST generous (slight sarcasm) in allowing it to be "about" 30 not 30 on the nose. There is stretch room.
But as for current Dragoons? Make this an opportunity to explore change of lifestyle, of the realities of peace time when you only knew war. How your body, mayhaps your dragon within still yearns for combat. Leves speak of how Dragoons are conditioned to near PTSD rage at the slight jingling of scales, that is not the person who is going to adjust well to "normal society" visit the vietnam vet angle or the WWII vet angle...maybe more WWI. Â You can now actually freely visit other nations without contrivances, no "You're a dragoon, why the hell are you in the quicksands?"Â
You still have your capabilities as well. We got Orland who tries to LB3 us in Hildebrand,thus showing that the limit break is not only not tied to the Azure Dragoon, but that our capabilities are innate. I have no idea where "only 30 soulstones exist" came from but clearly Orland still has his / is not needed.
No one's /PAST/ RP has been destroyed in my books (unless you've been RP'ing being on patrol and active duty after the war like I have) but current RP is definitely being funneled in one direction in my opinion.
Maybe Ishgard as part of the alliance will be forced to send aid to retake Ala Mhigo in Stormblood, maybe an invasion occurs or something happens to declare total war. Maybe the 4.0 quests will be about learning to ride dragons and become dragon dragoons (like the military unit as shown by Eva) and so THEN there will be wiggle room to swell the ranks once more.
but until 3.5,until the expansion next year, I'm keeping Orrin miserable behind a desk. He's not allowed to be happy anyway.
I do /not/ believe that the revelation of a 30 person crew invalidates any previous Dragoon RP from anyone barring extreme statements such as (we lost 200 that day or the sort)
to me 30 is a large enough number to fudge. You'll never run into something with 30 + Dragoons in RP all at once. Only rub I can see here is that thirty is TOO small for any Dragoon to /NOT/ know another dragoon. Its a high school class and you'll at least be able to know their name and appearance ESPECIALLY because there are your teammates, your brothers in arms, your peers, your equals. Being a Knight Dragoon now carries with it a minor agreement to share information with other Knight Dragoon RP'ers you choose to socialize with, such as conceding prior knowledge of at least name to them. As opposed to before where I had believed that the group was large enough (numbering in several hundreds) that two dragoons could be strangers to each other. This is now more akin to SOLDIER than say SEED for the sake of FF equivalents.
I had more issue in CONTINUING to RP as an active service Dragoon. Even I, in respect to lore had to forcefully retire Orrin even though personality wise he's the sort to die with a weapon in his hands. I have my RP reasons for why Orrin can accept not being on the front lines anymore but that's not important to the discussion.
My topic title is admittedly click bait-y and overly dramatic but it was still accurate in response to being an /actively/ serving Knight Dragoon.Â
1 free spot is too exclusive in my books, its akin to being the WOL in claim. I'd have less issue with saying you were part of the group that helped NOAH in the crystal tower saga or even the current void ark saga than being that last Dragoon, because being on the WOL's short list of 23 other pals is much less exclusive than being the singular actively serving Dragoon while the rest are occupied by NPC spots.
So whilst I must lay down Orrin's lance, I /do not/ believe that all his RP for 2 years prior has been invalidated and that others who feel that way can be assured that they can still claim to HAVE BEEN a Dragoon. Remember the book is MOST generous (slight sarcasm) in allowing it to be "about" 30 not 30 on the nose. There is stretch room.
But as for current Dragoons? Make this an opportunity to explore change of lifestyle, of the realities of peace time when you only knew war. How your body, mayhaps your dragon within still yearns for combat. Leves speak of how Dragoons are conditioned to near PTSD rage at the slight jingling of scales, that is not the person who is going to adjust well to "normal society" visit the vietnam vet angle or the WWII vet angle...maybe more WWI. Â You can now actually freely visit other nations without contrivances, no "You're a dragoon, why the hell are you in the quicksands?"Â
You still have your capabilities as well. We got Orland who tries to LB3 us in Hildebrand,thus showing that the limit break is not only not tied to the Azure Dragoon, but that our capabilities are innate. I have no idea where "only 30 soulstones exist" came from but clearly Orland still has his / is not needed.
No one's /PAST/ RP has been destroyed in my books (unless you've been RP'ing being on patrol and active duty after the war like I have) but current RP is definitely being funneled in one direction in my opinion.
Maybe Ishgard as part of the alliance will be forced to send aid to retake Ala Mhigo in Stormblood, maybe an invasion occurs or something happens to declare total war. Maybe the 4.0 quests will be about learning to ride dragons and become dragon dragoons (like the military unit as shown by Eva) and so THEN there will be wiggle room to swell the ranks once more.
but until 3.5,until the expansion next year, I'm keeping Orrin miserable behind a desk. He's not allowed to be happy anyway.
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