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(12-31-2016, 08:26 AM)ArmachiA Wrote: Toxic is a pretty harsh word, mate, and completely inaccurate. Just because something is difficult doesn't mean it's toxic. Let's bring up your points here:
The thing is, people have to look at this from all sides and they just don't. I am a pretty big advocate of new people getting into rp, and can admit there are some issues, but lets not overdramatize.
There's no need to get defensive over the semantics I'm not attacking an individual or even you for that matter. Â I empathize with the OP. Â I don't suffer for Roleplay, I have an established and wonderful Free Company and I adore and cherish its membership. Â I even have people in my FC that actively engage those outside of our company. Â They're definately part of the proactive influence in our RP world and I'm certain that there's a lot of other people on this RPC that are the same way. Â Maril for example I know is -very- active and does a lot for the community as a whole.
You're correct saying that the community as a whole is toxic was unfair of me to say. Â I still stand by my belief that there is a lot of very, very negative and hostile elements that are both off-putting and self-damning within the community. Â The very sentiment I've seen ofÂ
- You don't owe anyone roleplay
- If you just try you'll get RP, it worked for me so it'll work for you
- Knee-jerk criticism as to why someone is doing it wrong.
It seems like every time there's criticism there's this defensiveness that rises up to try and attack the person who is having a rough time. Â That's what I find to be toxic.
Even reading through this thread I've seen the "advice" given and that was part of my experiment I wanted to see if the advice I was given actually works. Â That is part of what I'm trying to share and maybe I need to repeat the experiment but telling me "why what you're doing is wrong" isn't actually that helpful, it's combative and furthers my point (and to a degree I think the OP's point) that our community is stand-offish and difficult to break into for someone coming in new.
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To Virella's advice..
During my experiment I didn't go to "huge" events. Â They're not my style in general the events I attended usually had at most 20 people at them so the scroll was never unbearable and unlike a true green RPer I've got a lot of experience under my belt for how to handle RPing in crowds or to make more niche smaller groups when needed.
I'm not counting events that were like the Roses or Kiss performance events where you're more or less watching RP instead of participating or the huge events like the Grindstone where, no offense, it's too orchestrated to be able to establish any sort of contact of substance unless you're part of the audience. Â Please do not take this as an attack on the Grindstone, I appreciate those who organize such an undertaking and know it's very popular.. Â
I empathize with the new adventurer, the green roleplayer and instead of just wanting to shove the advice of someone who is established I wanted to see what their perspective was. Â It's a lot harder now than I remember it being when I started on Balmung but then again even the Quicksand has changed. Â There seems to be a lot more jaded rpers.
I agree though Virella, a lot of it is the character you play. Â This point has been made earlier in this thread.. and I can attest to it across my alts as well.
A fun-loving outgoing character that initiates walkups gets RP a lot easier and faster than a cold, reclusive loner. Â
Question Has anyone ever used Party Finder to find RP contacts? Â Did that work for you?