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Erik: So, in the past, the two sects both belonged to the Fist of Rhalgr, and their disciples trained beside one another as comrades. And yet, though the techniques they employed were identical, the manner in which they harnessed energy was opposed in nature. It was this difference which gave rise to two aspects of chakra.
Erik
Now, it is common knowledge that the Fist of Rhalgr rose to the zenith of its power by virtue of royal endorsement. Lesser known is the dispute which broke out over this arrangement between two factions within the Fist─the sect of light and the sect of shadow.
Erik
The head priest of the sect of light believed that an alliance with the royal house of Ala Mhigo was the key to prosperity. However, his counterpart in the sect of shadow disagreed, warning that it would lead to their undoing. History has proven them both right. But I digress.
https://www.xivdb.com/quest/67564/against+the+shadow
Political. Their fighting style is the same. They split due to political reasons. But I guess brushing away what lore and history we have on the Fists is your thing. You do you, I do lore.
And that's the last I'm going to say onto this.
Edit: Actually, in generally, I'm done with arguing over Monk lore, especially with you in specific Melkire. We ain't going to agree no matter what, so take this as 'fuck this shit I'm out'. Also throwing this under a cut in general as I don't feel derailing this whole thread is a nice thing to do to begin with, even if I'm stepping out of discussion. You do you, I do me. All happy.
(01-03-2017, 11:13 AM)Melkire Wrote: I'd offer to help out, but my shadow sect character's still an adept in many ways. Putting aside that he's no master, I'm pulled in enough directions as is to make any further long-term commitments. Feel free to hit me up in-game, though, for the occasional scene. Osric and Worren have met over other matters, it wouldn't be a stretch to take it further.Hi Melkire, did you stop nitpicking. Maybe post the whole sentence instead of the titbit.
Quick detour because I want to address something I've been seeing both here and on other sites.
(01-03-2017, 08:48 AM)Virella Wrote: TLDR: Shadow sect lore: Same as Light sect, except they got booted out out of the main Temple and forced into obscurity due to a disagreement over the royal house. Shadow and Light sect split is a political thing. Not an evil vs good thing. Also chakras don't make you behave you in a certain way as far as we know. Shadow sect and Light sect employ the same techniques. More on that in the links below.
The bolded is fundamentally in error given that it glosses over the following lore cited in the posted links:
Quote:And yet, though the techniques they employed were identical, the manner in which they harnessed energy was opposed in nature.
It's that tidbit, coupled with the in-game existence of fourteen chakras which mirror the real world's seven major and seven minor chakra, that's led some roleplayers to regard shadow-aspected chakras in a certain light. But no, neither sect is good or evil, and being of the shadow wouldn't make anyone behave differently or do evil things. Pretty sure that'd be misconstruing and misreading both others' roleplay and the concepts on which said roleplay scenes are biased... but then again, I can only speak for myself.
Erik: So, in the past, the two sects both belonged to the Fist of Rhalgr, and their disciples trained beside one another as comrades. And yet, though the techniques they employed were identical, the manner in which they harnessed energy was opposed in nature. It was this difference which gave rise to two aspects of chakra.
Erik
Now, it is common knowledge that the Fist of Rhalgr rose to the zenith of its power by virtue of royal endorsement. Lesser known is the dispute which broke out over this arrangement between two factions within the Fist─the sect of light and the sect of shadow.
Erik
The head priest of the sect of light believed that an alliance with the royal house of Ala Mhigo was the key to prosperity. However, his counterpart in the sect of shadow disagreed, warning that it would lead to their undoing. History has proven them both right. But I digress.
https://www.xivdb.com/quest/67564/against+the+shadow
Political. Their fighting style is the same. They split due to political reasons. But I guess brushing away what lore and history we have on the Fists is your thing. You do you, I do lore.
And that's the last I'm going to say onto this.
Edit: Actually, in generally, I'm done with arguing over Monk lore, especially with you in specific Melkire. We ain't going to agree no matter what, so take this as 'fuck this shit I'm out'. Also throwing this under a cut in general as I don't feel derailing this whole thread is a nice thing to do to begin with, even if I'm stepping out of discussion. You do you, I do me. All happy.
