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RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions |
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01-18-2017, 05:26 PM
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(01-18-2017, 04:22 PM)Nero Wrote: A). How did the Resistance forces even breach the Wall in the first place?

If we assume that Laurentius and Yuyuhase helped the Resistance forces enter the Wall, then Garlemald's security is hilariously bad, because this means that the "take a uniform, infiltrate stronghold" trick worked on them twice on two major military installations (Castrum Centri and now the Wall). Garlemald has a habit of conscripting conquered peoples, but apparently doesn't check to make sure they're not saboteurs or infiltrators.

B). If the Garleans had sufficient force to defeat the rebels, then why did the rebels only lose when Laurentius activated the killdroids?

The Garleans were losing decisively before Laurentius activated his killdroids (as evidenced by everything Garlean being dead or destroyed before said droids were activated). The heavy implication is that the Resistance would have successfully taken the wall had said killdroids not been activated, which still says that Garlemald is laughably bad at their border defence.

C). Why was Laurentius put in charge of activating the killdroids in the first place?

If these killdroids were Garlean forces, why weren't they immediately activated when the wall is attacked and immediately become anti-resistance gore machines? If Laurentius and Yuyuhase deliberately delayed the activation of the killdroids, then why were two random grunts who were definitely not Garlean officers put in charge of the killdroids? And why are Garlean military installations just so damn easy to infiltrate?

For A), they seem to point towards the surprise of being attacked from the other side of the Wall being the primary cause, but then you can consider that between basically nothing happening for 28(?) years, a new Legatus, and the Garlean's war of succession, the Garleans on the Wall probably had no idea what the hell is even going on. None of the city-state leaders even bat an eye at actually taking the Wall, but focus on how the Resistance wouldn't be able to hold it.

Plus, if that one cutscene from 3.3 or 3.4 of Yda and Papalymo chilling in that Resistance camp was actually taking place within Gyr Abania, then the Garleans are either in bad shape or are horrifically incompetent.

For B), the worry didn't appear to be the forces actually on the Wall, but the inevitable reaction force that would come and take it back. One of the victims of the slaughter mentioned something about how they didn't expect the spider tank things to show up as soon as they did.

For C), with the whole thing being planned by whathisface, he probably wanted the Resistance fighters to feel victory before they were crushed to coerce more emotion and grief and whatever for the summoning. I'm assuming that those two weren't simply given the spider tanks and their control thingy by the Garleans, but managed to steal them and bring them to the Wall. Or something. Plot.


Edit - THEN AGAIN THE WOL JUST LITERALLY WALKED THROUGH THE FRONT DOOR SO
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[Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Kage - 01-17-2017, 09:48 AM
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Kilieit - 01-17-2017, 05:09 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Virella - 01-17-2017, 05:34 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Kage - 01-17-2017, 05:12 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Eliane Dufresne - 01-17-2017, 06:30 PM
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Kellach Woods - 01-17-2017, 10:26 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Virella - 01-17-2017, 10:27 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Nero - 01-17-2017, 10:38 PM
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Kellach Woods - 01-17-2017, 10:46 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Nero - 01-17-2017, 11:54 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Aaron - 01-18-2017, 12:23 AM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Kellach Woods - 01-18-2017, 12:55 AM
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Kage - 01-18-2017, 11:10 AM
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RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by Nero - 01-18-2017, 04:22 PM
RE: [Spoilers] 3.5 Spoilers Discussions - by T'errin - 01-18-2017, 05:26 PM
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