(02-21-2017, 02:32 PM)Sylentmana Wrote:(02-21-2017, 02:12 PM)Gegenji Wrote:(02-21-2017, 02:08 PM)Sylentmana Wrote: Part of me feels irritated when I see people posting invitations to join a FC then saying "go to our website to submit an application" or "contact an officer for an interview." I can't help but think, if you're the one seeking members, then why should they have to bow to you and what you want? However, I have seen how the wrong member can get in and fleece a FC for everything they've got, so I kind of understand why they have these processes.
I suppose I don't see why that would be irritating. I think that sort of stuff is just to bring attention to their FC so that people know it's there to attempt to apply for it. It's advertising - and even businesses that are advertising open job slots will still require the potential new employee to come interview and show their skill sets if necessary.
I'd be personally more bothered by the FCs that invite anyone and everyone and use their bloated numbers as some sort of a status symbol. "We've got over 500 members!" Yay you.
I can understand your perspective. I think the reason it bothers me is because I chafe under the idea of answering to others (outside of my RL job) and allowing another player to 'interview' me for the privilege of joining their FC feels like submitting myself. Perhaps I'm just far too IC at these moments. My characters tend to be fiercely independent.
Oh I certainly get that.
... Though, I suppose my interaction with that sort of thing was more in the endgame raiding-level guilds back in WoW. Where you had to apply and have a reference and jump through all these hoops to get a chance to see the endgame content. Which made sense, to some degree, considering they wanted people that could perform and push content. I just hated the circular logic that arose (prior to the whole "practice" raid versions they introduced in... Pandaria?) of "to be able to join in on this fight you have to have done this fight."
... Basically, you'd never get a chance to try doing something because to be able to do it... you had to have done it already. Which is horribly flawed logic to me. No one can learn the fight if everyone requires you to have already done it. Just the number of learning runs that go on in FFXIV's endgame content makes me feel a lot better about it as compared to WoW.
But I digress, since applying for doing endgame content is a few shades removed from trying to join... say... an RP guild. Though, I suppose it isn't all that much different - since, after all, both are seeking some manner of goal (whether it be content, RP plot, or general atmosphere in the FC) and want to ensure that those they bring in will mesh well with that. It's just something more... intangible, I guess, compared to raid progress so it's easier to think requiring such things in an RP FC (or any other sort of non-endgame FC) as extraneous and possibly unnecessary. Even if it really isn't.
I suppose what chafes me nowadays is when the rule-structure is setup so that it doesn't feel like I'm playing a game anymore and it's more like a second job. "Have to login X times" and other such requirements. Which, thankfully, I have seen very little of outside raiding statics and the like.
... Man I'm rambly today.
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