(02-24-2017, 01:03 AM)Kilieit Wrote: Bolding mine. I think this is an interesting point - in my experience, a lot of FC leaders are borderline phobic of the /gkick.
I've been in the position myself of needing to make a gkick of a member who has exceeded their maximum allowed number of conduct infractions and need to be shown the door. I've also been in the position of needing to kick someone who is being so abusive, in guild chat, right now, that they need to be removed immediately for the mental health and emotional wellbeing of the other members.
I feel like... people think... a gkick is only "justified" if it's the latter sort of extreme situation? And forget to either include or enforce rules that say "we may ask you to leave if you're not fitting in" (which is essentially what "this member has made 3 conduct infractions in the last month" is telling you). They try to pre-emptively prevent the situation ever coming about through interviews and trial periods, which is just... not always feasible.
It was definitely easier for me to kick Mr Abusive. It was also easier for me to handle the fallout... or lack thereof. Enough people had witnessed it that there were no "he was kicked unfairly" rumours for me to have to handle. The effect of removing Mr Abusive was immediate, obvious, and positive.
I think the problem, as you sort of mentioned, is less to do with the guild leaders being afraid to lose a single member or hurting the feelings of the person getting kicked, and more that, unless someone is very visibly being an outright ass like you said, it can stir up a shitstorm about whether the person "deserved" to be kicked--whether it's their friends sticking up for them when they know they're in wrong (or perhaps because they lowkey share or at least approve of the same problematic behavior), misled do-gooders who genuinely believe there's been some abuse of power, or internet anarchists who have to constantly rebel and challenge everything. Oftentimes when I've found myself considering whether to kick someone, it tempting to think of it like less a question of "is it justified" and more "is this person's behavior worse than the fallout will probably be." Which is all the more reason for a thorough application process, I suppose--not only to try to avoid housing the people who will be kicked, but also those who will cause a fuss about someone being rightfully removed from the FC.
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