(05-22-2017, 07:22 PM)Erahsae Wrote:(05-21-2017, 12:48 PM)Sounsyy Wrote: It's a bit more complicated than that. Ala Mhigan refugees initially showed up in Gridania and Coerthas, and both cities closed their gates to them altogether. When they came to Ul'dah, they were told they could stay, but they were denied citizenship, employment, and provisions. The only work that was initially offered them was sex work. Ul'dah's unemployment problem was then exacerbated tenfold with the coming of the Adventurer movement, which began putting many commonfolk out of business across the city-states.
Many Ala Mhigans began setting up settlements in the sultanate lands or moving into run down places like Silver Bazaar. Because no one wanted them there because Ul'dahns viewed them as worthless because they had no money, many merchants and consortiums attempted to bulldoze the areas they had set up camp to make room for mansions and plantations for Ul'dah's most wealthy. You can read more about Ul'dah's treatment of the Ala Mhigans here.
You can also throw in more problems / resentment towards Ala Mhigan refugees due to the whole trying to invade Gridania bit as well.
As Stormblood draws nearer on the horizon, this has definitely been a commonplace sentiment that I've been trying to abolish. It's actually fanon. Justifiable fanon, if your character is the type to hold WWII against modern day Germans (edit: poor example), but ultimately... this sentiment is neither represented nor referenced by any NPC anywhere in 1.0, 2.0, or 3.0. In fact, the only time any NPC blames the Autumn War for Ala Mhigan prejudice, it's an Immortal Flame soldier claiming that the reason Ala Mhigans hate Ul'dahns is because of the Autumn War.
Annabel Wrote:The Immortal Flames oversee the protection of Little Ala Mhigo, but from the looks the locals give us, you'd think our two nations were still at war.
Which... if you've read anything about how Ul'dah has treated the Ala Mhigans refugees, you'd be intimately aware of several more relevant and immediate reasons why Ala Mhigans, particularly those in Little Ala Mhigo, despise Ul'dahns.
So why do so many cling to a war one-hundred years done? I think it's because the Autumn War is well known bit of Ala Mhigan history - perhaps the most well known aspect of it, in fact. Afterall, we've been told before that many of the races disliked one another due to simmering conflicts in years past, scars that just never healed. It kind of made sense, until that is, you take a closer look at the refugee crisis and its affects on the city-states now and during the last 15-20 years.
Could the Autumn War be a contributing factor? Perhaps. But Gridania and Ishgard have also gone to war against each other. And Limsa Lominsa and Ul'dah have been biting and clawing at each other for nearly 400 years, even into the year 1572 where the two nations actively attempted to sabotage each other's grand companies.
Of the five nations involved in the Autumn War, the only nations who came away at a loss were Gridania and Ala Mhigo. By involving themselves in Gridania's affairs, Ishgard was able to keep its own border protected - but more importantly, it effectively ended 400 years of Gridanian isolationism and independence. Ishgard and Gridania's long-standing stalemate at the border ended and the two nations became staunch allies afterward, but Gridania was forced to give up a portion of its vast natural resources to the other nations in trade. Ul'dah also stood to benefit from this on as many or more fronts: Gridanian trade meant their caravans would be protected in the Black Shroud, a place where most Ul'dahns feared to go. Ul'dah was also able to force Ala Mhigo to reduce their tariffs for trade and safe passage across their lands to the east - effectively neutering Ala Mhigo's economy, which would pave the way for the rise of the Fist of Rhalgr whittling away the king's political power, eventually giving rise to Theodoric's reign of ruin, and finally Ala Mhigo's fall.
Hope that helps clear some things up! ^^;
