(06-18-2017, 01:10 PM)Lamiaris Wrote: No, I'm not necessarily talking about becoming a primal or summoning one yourself (although they could be valid, depending on the FC) ICly, but I'm talking about the ones summoned by say.... the Ixal, the Kobolds, and the Ananta for example!
Can Primals be validly fought in an IC scenario? Considering the beast tribes seem to be able to summon them with relative ease (given prayers and a hefty supply of crystals), is it reasonable to say a character could have ICly clashed with one as part of a plotline?
Likewise, is tempering (not necessarily Ifrit's manner though) a possibility?
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Yes, they could be fought by normal people, though generally with heavy/significant losses. As in, people would have to throw an army at the primal and hope for the best. The Garleans might have the firepower to put down a lesser primal, though I'm unsure of that.
Of the primals, only Ifrit and Leviathan actively temper members of the Five Races (tempering and drowning respectively). Titan generally doesn't temper. Garuda attempts it as an act of desperation when the WoL first faces her. Ramuh has tempered the majority of the sylphs, though without ill intent. I don't think it's stated if the Mogglesguard, Gnath, and Vundu were tempered. Zantetsuken tempers whoever picks it up and turns them into Odin. Of the Warring Triad (who were all killed by the WoL and lack the worship to be brought back), Zurvan was noted to temper Garleans that were simply in its presence. Can't speak for the SB primals.
For those without the Echo, tempering is not only a possibility, but almost a certainty in the case of Ifrit and Leviathan. Likely Garuda too.
Honestly, I think only the WoL and his cadre of elite adventurers have a sufficient power level to take on primals with relative ease. For everyone else, they'd have to be part of a fairly large mercenary company/similar organisation, and even then most of them are probably going to end up as casualties. Plus if a single person is able to fight and defeat a primal (like the WoL did), the Scions and the GCs are going to swoop down on them and snatch them up quick (like what happened with the WoL).
