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Caspar · **07-05-2017, 01:52 PM**

(07-05-2017, 01:11 PM)Edda Wrote:
(07-04-2017, 07:10 PM)Enla Wrote: Like Ave alluded to, Lyse has a bad case of what I would call Bella Swan syndrome. We're told countless times throughout the story how competent she is, how good she is, how right she is for the position; how we're supposed to care about her and her struggles, and how she truly earned everything she was given. Yet the writing does not fall in line with these sentiments. The writers failed the most basic of writing tropes with Lyse in that we're TOLD about how worthy she is, but never actually SHOWN it. A fact which trips up many a person it seems and allows them to falsely believe the spiel without hard evidence to back it, which happened similarly with discussions about Bella's inflated status as a feminism symbol when she was anything but.*

This is a very good point and one I did not consider, thank you.

(07-04-2017, 07:10 PM)Enla Wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm praying Lyse develops properly in the coming patches as I've always had a soft spot for characters who start as unlikable and end up being something so much more than even they could have dreamed of. Yet unlike the Youko Nakajima's of the world, Lyse has been placed so high upon a pedestal already and basically told that her naivete isn't an issue that I can't see how they're going to fix this convoluted mess they've created. Not without pulling the same stunt they did with Alphinaud and the Crystal Braves.

Which to be blunt, is what Lyse's writing reminds me of. She's a bastardization of Minfillia, yes. Yet more than that she's following right in ARR Alphinaud's footsteps down to the inflated sense of importance the plot is trying to contrive upon her. Why they're making near the same mistake, down to the plot beats, is boggling my mind given the fact that we needed an entire expansion after the fact to redeem Alphinaud of his mistakes.

I hated Alphinaud during the entirety of 2.0, but thanks to Heavensward I can say that I actually really like him now, and enjoy watching him on screen. Having watched him grow over the course of so many patches really warmed me to him, and I'd say he's proof that Square Enix can write good, believable character development... provided they get enough time and breathing room. Sadly, I don't think Lyse is going to get that treatment, as much as I'd like her to. It's more likely she's going to be relegated to Aymeric status, a boring figurehead for an expansion, and will become irrelevant the second Stormblood starts to draw to a close. Something game changing and major that would prevent this would be awesome, but I'm not gonna hold my breath.

That being said, I wonder which of the Three Ladies is going to get the most wholesome and believable character development? Lyse, Fordola or Yotsuyu? Vote now on your phones.

Literally from my phone I say it will be Yotzie.

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