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Teadrinker Teadrinker Find all posts by this user I actually like coffee too. Posts:827 Joined:Sep 2015 Server:Balmung Reputation: 180 RE: Red Magic | #23 07-12-2017, 02:54 PM (07-11-2017, 11:54 PM)Valic Wrote: (07-11-2017, 10:08 PM)Nero Wrote: Red magic isn't outlawed; as far as I can tell, it's just relatively rare (but not SO rare that you can't RP a red mage). Weird thing is that the Red Mage trainer mentions being trained, but they make absolutely no mention of who trains them. Square Enix strikes again! While they don't actually mention who exactly trains him, they do mention... Show Content RDM quest spoilerThe quests he makes it clear he was part of a small but well established order that was going along fine until the 50-60 bad guy killed them all. The techniques are also ancient and passed down, it's possible to self train from the sounds of how you start from the basics then get into studying/learning the sword techniques and etc passed down. \ Lil bit of copy/paste from the same discord but, I'd say it's fair someone among the Crimson Duelists trained him. Show Content Major Spoilerinos From what I've gathered thus far, X'rhun and the small group that founded the Duelists took it upon themselves to spearhead their own training and are also responsible for the "weapon of the weak" and "weapon against tyranny" and "weapon for Ala Mhigo" label that it is currently being propagated with. The original source material for The Crimson Duelists wouldn't have been all "For Ala Mhiiiiigoooo!" because....it didn't exist yet. Red Magic had a good 1135 years to be it's own thing before Ala Mhigo even came along. ((Bear in mind I'm only about halfway through the questline but I'm also scrubbing the hell out of it for this stuff.)) The below is my own conjecture, however. "We studied the ancient teachings." What I'm taking from this it seems there were archeological leftovers discovered that would have allowed an individual to begin training themselves, provided they had the connections and aptitude, around the time of or just before the time of mad King Theodoric. I think it's possible this knowledge could have been further spread around before this time or hiding in archeological nooks and crannies around Abalathia's Spine. I think the Crimson Duelists just took what they found and fashioned their own group and dogma around it. To me, this also suggests that things like this could still likely be found speckled throughout Gyr Abania. I would think a RDM soulstone would be a lot easier to find in Gyr Abania than it would be to find, say....A Scholar one in a Nymian ruin. You're in the right place for both but there has just been way less time passing. Red Mages are still in vivid living memory for many. Bear in mind, you still have to be of a sufficient aptitude/skill level for a soulstone to be more than just a rock in your hand though. (07-12-2017, 10:47 AM)Vokcas Wrote: To me Red Mages uses a mixture of Conjury & Thaumaturgy which is why it is considered allowed at this point in time giving the lack off evidence to say the craft is too dangerous. However because Conjury falls into the White Magic School and Thaumaturgy in the Black Magic School it is easier and correct in saying Red Mages uses Black and White magic. On a side note, I concur with this. AFAIK They're described as using the 'fundamentals' of these two schools of magic in the questline. ((I'll prolly end up doing a loredump post on this.)) Additionally, I have already had someone approach one of my characters and say "I know both Black and White magic." It was uh...interesting. So I made a tumblr. Show Content Spoiler

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Red Magic - by Red_Beard - 07-11-2017, 03:18 PM RE: Red Magic - by Virella - 07-11-2017, 03:24 PM RE: Red Magic - by Val - 07-11-2017, 03:25 PM RE: Red Magic - by Coatleque - 07-11-2017, 04:07 PM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-11-2017, 08:56 PM RE: Red Magic - by Val - 07-12-2017, 03:27 PM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-12-2017, 03:39 PM RE: Red Magic - by Val - 07-12-2017, 04:15 PM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-12-2017, 04:31 PM RE: Red Magic - by Valence - 07-12-2017, 06:49 AM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-12-2017, 09:29 AM RE: Red Magic - by Arashin Kujqai - 07-12-2017, 10:22 AM RE: Red Magic - by Zeizei - 07-11-2017, 06:11 PM RE: Red Magic - by Erah'sae - 07-11-2017, 08:46 PM RE: Red Magic - by Arashin Kujqai - 07-11-2017, 08:57 PM RE: Red Magic - by Nero - 07-11-2017, 10:08 PM RE: Red Magic - by Arashin Kujqai - 07-11-2017, 11:54 PM RE: Red Magic - by Teadrinker - 07-12-2017, 02:54 PM RE: Red Magic - by Red_Beard - 07-12-2017, 09:45 AM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-12-2017, 09:47 AM RE: Red Magic - by Red_Beard - 07-12-2017, 09:49 AM RE: Red Magic - by Vokcas - 07-12-2017, 10:47 AM RE: Red Magic - by Gegenji - 07-12-2017, 11:02 AM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-12-2017, 11:03 AM RE: Red Magic - by Gegenji - 07-12-2017, 11:24 AM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-12-2017, 11:30 AM RE: Red Magic - by Gegenji - 07-12-2017, 11:39 AM RE: Red Magic - by Virella - 07-12-2017, 03:46 PM RE: Red Magic - by Gegenji - 07-12-2017, 03:50 PM RE: Red Magic - by Zeizei - 07-12-2017, 05:09 PM RE: Red Magic - by Teadrinker - 07-12-2017, 04:12 PM RE: Red Magic - by Virella - 07-12-2017, 05:12 PM RE: Red Magic - by Gegenji - 07-12-2017, 05:33 PM RE: Red Magic - by Tyndles - 07-12-2017, 05:30 PM RE: Red Magic - by Virella - 07-12-2017, 05:35 PM RE: Red Magic - by Gegenji - 07-12-2017, 05:54 PM RE: Red Magic - by Virella - 07-12-2017, 06:09 PM RE: Red Magic - by Flashhelix - 07-12-2017, 06:15 PM RE: Red Magic - by Virella - 07-12-2017, 06:32 PM RE: Red Magic - by Kismet - 07-12-2017, 06:22 PM RE: Red Magic - by Literal-Ghost - 07-12-2017, 06:53 PM RE: Red Magic - by Virella - 07-12-2017, 06:56 PM RE: Red Magic - by LiadansWhisper - 07-12-2017, 09:44 PM RE: Red Magic - by Teadrinker - 07-12-2017, 10:27 PM RE: Red Magic - by Literal-Ghost - 07-12-2017, 07:05 PM RE: Red Magic - by Teadrinker - 07-12-2017, 07:13 PM RE: Red Magic - by Arashin Kujqai - 07-12-2017, 07:53 PM

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