I mean.. while conjury and white magic were their own entities, I believe they still have the same approach and purposes to be able to start from the base up from thaumaturgy as well. The way I wrote my character took years of study in all the disciplines and their basics, only to sort've self discover them in his own training using the basics together as well as picking up a refined blade by coincidence that interested him... Probably not the most believable concepts, kinda like when a moment happens in a disney movie that's just a little too perfect to be realistic to happen but it works.
Then upon a couple years beyond this, discovered tomes and studied the discipline known as red magic. Only to further his practices in it using the teachings he'd learned from prior mentioned studies.
Need a soul stone?... I don't think so necessarily, probably handy but I don't believe it's truly "required" except to rush the process more quickly than taken a full 20 something years of study and buildup. Master of red magic? I wouldn't say master but certainly well informed enough to be able to partake in discussions about it, explain it's fundamentals and perhaps take a student to learn upon. Just because someone can train or tutor doesn't always mean they're a "master" of the art, they can always discover new things themselves or improve.
tl;dr: Not that anyone cares about my opinion ofc lol, but I don't think red magic has to be bound to being Ala Mhigan, being about ancient mage training babble, being a crimson duelist, or being some sort of historical mage of long time past. Red magic seems free enough to just require some know how of how to obtain the knowledge, practice it, and do it to be titled a "red mage" ICly. As compared to black magic and white magic tha need certain approvals and a more dedicated background to be lore acceptable and unquestionable.
*continues babbling on*
Then upon a couple years beyond this, discovered tomes and studied the discipline known as red magic. Only to further his practices in it using the teachings he'd learned from prior mentioned studies.
Need a soul stone?... I don't think so necessarily, probably handy but I don't believe it's truly "required" except to rush the process more quickly than taken a full 20 something years of study and buildup. Master of red magic? I wouldn't say master but certainly well informed enough to be able to partake in discussions about it, explain it's fundamentals and perhaps take a student to learn upon. Just because someone can train or tutor doesn't always mean they're a "master" of the art, they can always discover new things themselves or improve.
tl;dr: Not that anyone cares about my opinion ofc lol, but I don't think red magic has to be bound to being Ala Mhigan, being about ancient mage training babble, being a crimson duelist, or being some sort of historical mage of long time past. Red magic seems free enough to just require some know how of how to obtain the knowledge, practice it, and do it to be titled a "red mage" ICly. As compared to black magic and white magic tha need certain approvals and a more dedicated background to be lore acceptable and unquestionable.
*continues babbling on*