(11-08-2017, 09:28 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(11-08-2017, 05:31 AM)Valence Wrote: White mages also draw their aether from the planet, and wether their method is more gentle or if the soulstone is also mandatory just to even cast white magic spells, is left to speculation. I suspect the later considering the WhM 30-50 quests, where the soulstone has to be specifically bestowed by elementals to the WoL so that they can access the arcanes of that magic, like padjal do.
This is never explicitly stated. Â In fact, in the confines of the original questline, which is the only point at which the soulstone is even addressed, the soulstone does exactly two things: 1) It tells the Padjal that you've been chosen by A-Towa-Cant and thus they have to train you and 2) it very occasionally allows you to learn certain techniques without them being explicitly taught to you. In the 51-60 questline, it occasionally teaches you new techniques, but is never explicitly addressed within the quests themselves. Â In the 61-70 questline, it teaches you one technique at the end of the questline, and never once comes up.
I may be at a loss as to what is your point here? I never said the contrary? I actually said that it's very ambiguous for WhM if the soulstone is absolutely required or not.
(11-08-2017, 09:28 AM)LiadansWhisper Wrote:(11-08-2017, 07:58 AM)Valence Wrote: but WhM can't simply access the magic (Succor/White Magic) as taught by the elementals to the padjals. Wether this was the case or not for anciant Amdapori magic is left to speculation I think. I suspect that old Amdapori White Magic might differ slightly from the one controled and granted by the elementals to the padjals of the Twelveswood.
I'm pretty sure this is pure speculation and head canon on your part, Valence. Â There is nothing that I can recall in the quests to back up your speculation. Â I can't think of a single place where this is mentioned. Â Do you have a specific quote where it is stated that White Mages cannot use White Magic (Padjali or otherwise) without a Soul Stone?
I think this is a misunderstanding. In the questline, it is pretty clear that you wouldn't do any white magic without A-Towa Cant's blessing and thus, elemental blessing, bestowing you a soulstone in the process. This doesn't mean that the soulstone is the key, thus why I specified somewhere else in my post that it's ambiguous for jobs like WhM. The gatelock is on the sharing of knowledge, and not on the job crystal per se (but maybe it also is, see Sounsyy's link on soulstones, it could be interpretated either way).
But the fact remain that to become a white mage, you have to be chosen by the Elementals and their padjali friendos. Period. The only other solution was briefly mentionned by KojiFox as a dirty way to do it, and as far as I know we don't know more about that yet.
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