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RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought |
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07-17-2013, 12:29 PM
(This post was last modified: 07-17-2013, 12:37 PM by Eva.)
@Armi:  Thank you for your reply and visiting our site/forums.  I think you'll find that you have access to most of the forums there.  Please feel welcome to create a thread or offer your thoughts on one of the ongoing discussions.

@drake:  I'm concerned about some of what I have heard, but I am not looking to attempt to please everyone.  One of my favorite quotes is by Bill Cosby and goes something like, "I don't know the key to success, but the key to failure is trying to please everybody."  While we are looking to make some changes to be a bit more accommodating to the larger community, we're not looking to flush the proverbial baby out with the bathwater.  It is important to us that the LS retain its core values and purpose.

@Ildur:  I agree I don't think there's any way to set up a moderator team on any forum that is going to be received well by all members - particularly with a site like that RPC that encompasses so many members with so many different backgrounds and varying opinions.

@JJ:  Thanks for better summarizing what I was driving at with my rather longwinded response last night.  I don't think I can not be longwinded.  It's a sickness.  Huh

@Ellie:  Thank you also for clearing up that point about not wanting to promise things we can't deliver and leave prospective members feeling disenchated as a result.   You have a way of taking what I'm thinking and wording it so much better than I am able.  I appreciate that.

@Asyria:  Thank you for your comment as well.  I also agree that the RPC belongs to all of us.  But I am getting an idea where certain perceptions are coming from, which was part of why I created this thread.  I also remember BF from 1.0 and it sounded like a good group!

@Tyriont:  It's good to see you're back!  Changing recruitment status to something like 'Pending' would be a good idea.  I think we were locked into only a few different options, but this is certainly something worth looking into as well.  I also agree that the 'top shell' remark - which was first introduced somewhere on page 1 - is kind of deflating sort of thing.  I try to view the smaller communities that make up the RPC as cooperating and collaborating rather than competing.  While perhaps not equal in membership quantity, style, immersion, etc., I think it's probably offputting to label any one as being better or worse than another - generally speaking.  For each player or character there may be some that make more or less sense than others or make a better fit, but I agree that tagging any LS as being superior to others for any reason is a big no-no.

@Spiritual Machine:  It's my opinion that this did have a positive impact the last time it was conducted for another community I belonged to at the time.  I can appreciate that a lot of delicate issues may be brought up, but our goal is to improve our community not only for our members, but also to make it so that other communities can easily interface with us for cross-LS type RP.  I feel that there is value in this.  It has also been interesting to read about how these sort of modererator-member matters have been dealt with in other games' RP communities.  Please read on.


After some discussion with my fellow linkshell members, I decided to go back and edit much of the opening post of this thread.  It was pointed out to me - and I agree - that some of the phrasing I used/borrowed may have come off a little bit defensive, and that's really not the message that I'm meaning to send with this solicitation. The OP now reflects what I really feel about the issue, which is simply that I've heard through some of the back channels that Crystalline isn't viewed by some in a mostly positive light, and I'm now concerned about this, since it is as much of a reflection on Crystalline as it is of me, as the group's leader. I'm sincerely looking here for complaints that are registering for Crystalline, so that I can figure out what I can do, as shell leader, to make Crystalline as attractive and friendly as possible both for our members and also for those who may be interacting with us from other linkshell communities.
Since we do not want to be seen as hiding anything, I've preserved the original post and will leave it here beneath a spoiler tag:
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Original version of this thread's OPAlmost a year and a half ago Oskar who led a LS called Everwatch - for those who may not have known - created a thread to solicit feedback from non-members about the Everwatch LS.  A number of changes within that group (recruitment, leadership, application process, rules, etc.) were enacted afterwards as a result of discussion that stemmed from that thread and even though the Crystalline LS hasn't yet been founded in-character, I've already been kind of hearing a lot of stuff secondhand that I don't really like, so I figured I'd open a dialogue with the broader community with the intent of hopefully clearing up some misconceptions and looking for ways we might be a better part of the bigger community.  I'm going to quote him almost word-for-word here:

As person who isn't part of Crystalline, what are your thoughts on the LS so far?  What experiences have you had with us?  What have you heard about us?  I want to know because it's hard to sense one's place in the larger community from within, and one of our goals is to be a part of the RP community.
Please speak your mind freely and clearly. I know a lot of people are iffy about commenting on linkshells as a whole in public, for fear of offending someone, but I think having open discourses would actually help our linkshell and the rest of the RP community to know what Crystalline is about. We are ready to hear negative feedback, and if we see fit, we're ready to change accordingly - or at least be aware of what'€™s being said in the community, and possibly introduce some clarity to the public.  I am sure folks talk about other linkshells in private, but never in public.
Please, speak your mind, whatever you feel, whatever you've heard, whatever you've experienced.  It's all fair game.  All we ask is that you explain your views a little bit beyond '€œYou guys are great,' or '€œYou suck!'€ as those reasons will help us see things better.
Maybe we can even build some sort of a public trust, or at least, prove once again that mature, open, discussions about linkshells can happen, and by doing so, be more open with each other.

Thank you for sharing all the thoughts and feedback so far!

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Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Eva - 07-16-2013, 07:38 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Nox - 07-16-2013, 07:54 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Eva - 07-16-2013, 09:08 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by ArmachiA - 07-16-2013, 09:34 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Ellion Goto - 07-16-2013, 10:17 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by FreelanceWizard - 07-16-2013, 10:23 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Ellion Goto - 07-16-2013, 10:38 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by ArmachiA - 07-16-2013, 10:50 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Naunet - 07-16-2013, 11:15 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by ArmachiA - 07-16-2013, 11:40 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Monogatari - 07-16-2013, 11:16 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Alothia - 07-17-2013, 12:02 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by FreelanceWizard - 07-17-2013, 12:14 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by ArmachiA - 07-17-2013, 12:33 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Eva - 07-17-2013, 01:15 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by ArmachiA - 07-17-2013, 01:57 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by drake2k - 07-17-2013, 02:26 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Ildur - 07-17-2013, 03:37 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by John Spiegel - 07-17-2013, 06:30 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Ellie - 07-17-2013, 10:46 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Asyria - 07-17-2013, 11:15 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Tyriont - 07-17-2013, 11:27 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Spiritual Machine - 07-17-2013, 12:10 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Eva - 07-17-2013, 12:29 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Averis - 07-17-2013, 05:49 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Ellion Goto - 07-17-2013, 09:50 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Seohyun - 07-17-2013, 01:15 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Zizirimu Yayarimu - 07-17-2013, 01:39 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Spiritual Machine - 07-17-2013, 02:57 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by lady2beetle - 07-17-2013, 03:38 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Zizirimu Yayarimu - 07-17-2013, 04:15 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by lady2beetle - 07-17-2013, 04:21 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Rhynka - 07-17-2013, 04:20 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Aysun - 07-17-2013, 05:51 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by ArmachiA - 07-17-2013, 04:50 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Eva - 07-17-2013, 05:42 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Zeah - 07-17-2013, 07:01 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Rhynka - 07-17-2013, 07:51 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Spiritual Machine - 07-17-2013, 08:11 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Averis - 07-17-2013, 08:34 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Spiritual Machine - 07-18-2013, 02:00 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by C'io Behkt - 07-18-2013, 02:59 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by John Spiegel - 07-17-2013, 08:36 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by FreelanceWizard - 07-17-2013, 09:03 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Sulie Spellouise - 07-17-2013, 09:11 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Asyria - 07-17-2013, 09:41 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Azelle - 07-18-2013, 11:25 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Asyria - 07-18-2013, 12:57 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Eva - 07-18-2013, 01:59 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by C'io Behkt - 07-18-2013, 02:17 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Maeve - 07-23-2013, 08:22 PM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Asyria - 07-24-2013, 01:35 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by sciencerob - 07-25-2013, 02:27 AM
RE: Perspectives of Crystalline LS - Honest Feedback Sought - by Eva - 07-25-2013, 12:43 PM

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