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With respect, Rhynka, I don't feel that I've been attacked by Crystalline or anyone else in this thread. 
Of course, that may be because I was just offering some educated opinions and guesses about what some people felt about the LS and they happened to be correct -- curse my GL intuition, I suppose. Like I said, this is far from the first time I've seen or heard of this sort of "an old guild is an evil clique" perception. Hell, sometimes I've been on the receiving end of it, so I know how much it can hurt and how much it can drive one up the wall trying to figure out how to "fix it."
The purpose for my disclaimer was really to make it clear that I'm not against the LS. I want to see them succeed along with every other RP LS. Despite my registration date, I'm still "new" to the community (certainly relative to Crystalline members) and wanted to make it clear that I'm not some "damned noob who knows nothing trying to start a fight," so to speak, nor am I an evil mastermind phrasing things as if I were an outsider to distance myself from knives I've thrown at their back.
The reason I recommend ignoring the rumours is two-fold. First, acknowledging them grants them power. Those who enjoy seeing conspiracies will assume that this attempt to "get ahead of the scandal" is proof of said scandal's existence. "Why would Crystalline's members come out to defend it unless there were something that needed a defense?" they'll say. Second, they're almost assuredly coming from a group of people who will never be mollified. So, the LS members coming in to defend it in a thread whose ostensible purpose is the collection of feedback is just going to harden them further in their views.
That's not to say that this thread hasn't produced some positive results. To be honest, I felt the Crystalline LS thread was somewhat off-putting at best and quite premature at worst; IMO, until a guild has a concrete concept, charter, and application policy, it shouldn't be advertising itself at all. However, it seems that's being addressed, so that's a net positive, and to be honest, I didn't read it and say, "Ooh, those Crystalline people are total jerks!" I read it and thought, "Classic GL mistake that'll produce some blowback and probably complicate recruitment in the future. Also, the inevitable perceived CoI with the site administration will probably make that blowback worse." Thus, my first post on this thread.
Of course, that may be because I was just offering some educated opinions and guesses about what some people felt about the LS and they happened to be correct -- curse my GL intuition, I suppose. Like I said, this is far from the first time I've seen or heard of this sort of "an old guild is an evil clique" perception. Hell, sometimes I've been on the receiving end of it, so I know how much it can hurt and how much it can drive one up the wall trying to figure out how to "fix it."The purpose for my disclaimer was really to make it clear that I'm not against the LS. I want to see them succeed along with every other RP LS. Despite my registration date, I'm still "new" to the community (certainly relative to Crystalline members) and wanted to make it clear that I'm not some "damned noob who knows nothing trying to start a fight," so to speak, nor am I an evil mastermind phrasing things as if I were an outsider to distance myself from knives I've thrown at their back.
The reason I recommend ignoring the rumours is two-fold. First, acknowledging them grants them power. Those who enjoy seeing conspiracies will assume that this attempt to "get ahead of the scandal" is proof of said scandal's existence. "Why would Crystalline's members come out to defend it unless there were something that needed a defense?" they'll say. Second, they're almost assuredly coming from a group of people who will never be mollified. So, the LS members coming in to defend it in a thread whose ostensible purpose is the collection of feedback is just going to harden them further in their views.
That's not to say that this thread hasn't produced some positive results. To be honest, I felt the Crystalline LS thread was somewhat off-putting at best and quite premature at worst; IMO, until a guild has a concrete concept, charter, and application policy, it shouldn't be advertising itself at all. However, it seems that's being addressed, so that's a net positive, and to be honest, I didn't read it and say, "Ooh, those Crystalline people are total jerks!" I read it and thought, "Classic GL mistake that'll produce some blowback and probably complicate recruitment in the future. Also, the inevitable perceived CoI with the site administration will probably make that blowback worse." Thus, my first post on this thread.
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