(07-18-2013, 04:08 PM)Desmond Aryll Wrote: Great observations!
Thanks! :3
I likened them to a pride of lions. I'm assuming that like lions, the breeding male doesn't stay "champ" for very long. The title of Nuhn must get passed around quite often. With that in mind, the children being born won't necessarily be full siblings for very long before there is a change. The problem is also solved to a degree when there are multiple Nuhns, as one could look to mate with females outside of your own gene pool.
Basing them on lions seems to bring up some resemblance, you're right. I can't help but think of all the underlying implications that were going on by what was meant by "being the king" in The Lion King, lol xD
Anyway, while it would definitely be convenient for the Nuhns to be switched out quite often--which is very plausible in large tribes where odds would be that there could be any number of male challengers--I can't really see this being too often the occurrence in smaller tribes with only one or two Nuhns. In such a case, the only challengers (unless they came from outside the tribe, itself) would be the sons of the Nuhn. That means that, should they succeed in overthrowing their fathers, they're going to end up breeding with their (step?)sisters.
Also let's say you are a Tia and left your tribe as a juvenile or young adult, you might not have a chance to become Nuhn then but after a few years, you could come back and challenge. By that point, the ruling Nuhn could be someone else. Further changing the make-up of the tribe.
This makes sense, I agree with you. But again, I see this occurring more in larger tribes rather than smaller ones. It also poses the question of what happens if a Nuhn (who just spawned a generation) is defeated, overthrown, and then comes back to reclaim his title (and succeeds)?
Another possibility not ruled out in the lore is that when a Tia who cannot hope to become Nuhn leaves the tribe, he possibly starts a new one. There isn't anything saying that Tia can't be a former Nuhn. If he were to try and form a new tribe, it's not out of the question that some of the females that share history with him would follow. Leaving the existing tribe to concentrate on new blood so to speak.
Lastly a female seeker with male children would understand the politics behinds who is Nuhn, since the tribes are made up of mostly females, I would surmise that they have a HUGE hand in deciding who is set up to "win" a fight. Like instigating a challenge before a young Tia is quite ready to take on the Nuhn for example.Â
Right. I'll have to repeat myself a bit, though: If very few Nuhn are available in a tribe, then this means that the challengers are likely to be his own sons.
In the end I think that, like several RP'ers have implied, the real power behind the tribes are the females. Leaving the males in some cases, to even be viewed as breeding studs for the good of the tribe. Even though I am positive that there are quite worthy Nuhns around as well.
This is very likely--and in the case of Keepers of the Moon, a fact. The lore mentioned that the title of Nuhn, on its own, does not carry any governing weight and, in fact, very few Nuhn are actually governmental leaders in their respective tribes.
Thank you for your comments. I definitely agree with you 100% as far as typical tribes go, but I'm not so sure the smaller ones, as I've mentioned.
(07-18-2013, 04:26 PM)Bea Wrote: You've come to the root of my problems with the tribal stuff going on with the Miqo'te. Considering that breeding outside of the clan is not exactly smiled upon, incests would definitely be a thing. A breeding male would stay in power for as long as he can maintain the position (especially if we're comparing it to a pride of lions), and there's no scheduled swap or anything of the like.
And since the comparison of Miqo'te tribes being akin to lion prides has been brought up a few times by people who play them, I'm going to assume that we're going all out and any new breeding male who takes down the old one eats all of the children who aren't bread by him alone.
'S fucked up.
While I can see comparisons being made, I don't think I'd go that far with it, lol.
