(07-21-2013, 02:05 AM)Kyata Wrote: (numbers added for clarity of my post)First off, awesome post
1)Lastly... not to derail the subject at hand, regarding LeCard's (and Freelance Wizard's) comments about the correlation of race in the US to Wildwood vs Duskwright, few things:
IRL-
I also live in the Southern US...
In addition to being a Military brat and traveling RN...
As an anthropologist, I find the topic of division based on skin color to be absolutely ludicrous. One's skin color has absolutely nothing to do with the mental capabilities of a person. Genetics DOES have a 'say' in this, and in physical abilities and so on- but face it, folks... Earth is made up of mutts. ESPECIALLY in America.
Tl;dr- Dividing folks based on skin color is asinine.
SO!
2)In Gridania, I see the racism to be more overt. More violent and insulting. But heck- the Wildwood seem pretty racist and resistant against ANYONE that is not 'one of them'- DW or not. I mean... granted... my DW starting city -was- Gridania on Balmung Beta... but I also started a Miqo there, and she got the same treatment. So here? yeah... oppression is likely. Torches and pitchforks if you don't behave EXACTLY as told.
And... I wager skin tone would play a huge role in this as well. If an Elezen could 'pass' as Wildwood (much like a lightskinned African American during the '60's and even back to the time of the Civil War), they would be treated better. Given more opportunities. Perhaps the 'truth of their birth' being ignored (until such time as it was more beneficial/profitable to bring it up and 'knock them down a notch'). Which, IMHO, could give creedence to Eva's character's experiences.
3)In Ul'Dah, I sense a more cosmopolitan and globally accepting attitude. No one seemed to care one way or the other what 'race' you were... And oppression here would likely be met negatively. Or at the very most, be subtle- perhaps in the form of pricing of goods.
Cannot speak for Limsa...
4)Now... if the pot was continued to be stirred by the DW's (WW are traitors, betrayed our Elezen cultures, weakened themselves to cater to the Hyur, etc) and the WW (DW are arrogant, cowardly, thieves, backstabbers, etc), then we could see hostilities now. But I seriously doubt outright prejudice would be tolerated... well, not in Ul'dah anyway. (I really can NOT speak to Gridania as I did not spend ANY time there in Beta past L2...) I suppose the only lingering global 'prejudice' might merely be based on stereotype: all DW are thieves and backstabbers.
1) It is nice to see thoughts on this from someone who has had the chance to see the USA from multiple areas and can really speak to a better view of how things are. also "Dividing folks based on skin color is asinine." seconded and great word choice.
anyways back to dealing directly with the game...
2)I rolled out a WW in phase three and got exactly the same treatment as the Miqo'te I rolled in phase 2, so I will confirm that it doesn't matter what you are, if you are not from Gridania everyone is hated.
3) also cannot speak to Limsa (saved that story line for Rogier to explore and be fresh) But I imagine that Ul'Dah could care less what you are as long as your rich. as far as oppression goes, I think as long as someone has less money than you people might look the other way and just call it putting the person in their place.
4) It would be interesting to see if there are factions that are stirring things up again, or if there are groups working to remove any negative rifts. definitely an aspect to play with for some great RP.
I am so happy to see so much discussion here. keep up the good posts everyone.
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