(07-27-2013, 02:40 PM)Ellie Wrote: Personally, I don't feel like being annoyed that someone jumped into your RP without making sure it's okay with the group necessarily makes you a bad roleplayer. Not all private roleplays start out private, and people have been known to use public areas to represent private areas that cannot be accessed. (People's houses for instance) For me its often about the way its handled. I'm of the total immersion rp school, I'm also a freeform improv on the spot roleplayer. In real life I am not going to have conversations openly out in public that I don't want others to be a part of, and if the conversation starts off one way and turns private in an mmo I will turn to party chat and whispers/tells. I won't keep having a conversation right smack out in the open that all can hear. I'll just let whoever the private rp is starting to happen with a "hey lets go to party for this convo". Its a simple fix to not have to deal with griefers or people you don't want getting into your rp. If its really a big deal we can easily head off to a more secluded area or a private instance to finish the conversation.
Not to mention that just jumping in like you own the place would seem a bit rude to anyone, and for all they know you could be another griefer (they've been known to jump in pretending they're going to play along and end up doing something ridiculous like undressing their characters and doing inappropriate things to your character).
Simply sending an OOC message or a /tell asking if it's alright to join in wouldn't hurt you anybody else, and it shows that you respect their space. You'll be treated with less hesitation and annoyance, and you'll find that people rarely refuse to let you play.
Some people like jumping in, and that's fine, but you probably shouldn't expect everyone to be okay with it, and you definitely shouldn't write anyone who isn't off as a bad roleplayer.
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Bottom line for me is I find it low when people just ignore people for engaging their characters in the moment like that. Why not just do what people do in real life in these situations? Go to a secluded place or at least tell the new person "Hey this is a bit of a private chat". Instead of outright ignoring them. I think outright ignoring is just well....rude. It would be rude in real life and I don't see a true ic rper not thinking that its not rude to do it in game either. All it does is alienate people and give a well deserved title of elitist jerk to the offenders. I mean I've engaged groups in private rp that's happening out in the open and if they are well meaning someone will step up icly and tell me that they are busy or one will give me a tell saying "Hey just give us a moment" and that's wonderful.
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But the point of not saying anything at all and just straight up ignoring someone yeah, that's pretty foul. Most people are not going to assume that a public out in the open conversation is private. It shouldn't be on the part of the person starting to engage the public private group to guess this. It should be on the part of those engaging in that private moment to tell the new person what they are doing because fact is, you are doing a private moment out in public where people can hear it.
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Going to party chat or tells personally is the way I handle that. People often understand when they see a group standing around each other but they don't see/hear what they are saying. Its an easy indicator to tell that they a are speaking in private at that moment and with the fact that eight people can be engaged in party, or at least an ic linkshell I think its an easy solution as opposed to outright ignoring someone.
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So yes I say those who ignore others like that are bad roleplayers. I'm sorry but those that ignore people on purpose  are, it does nothing to foster community at all and just brings in bad feelings. Get enough groups doing it and it brings a bad title to the server, and I've seen that happen in too many mmos to name. Not to mention it also does nothing to foster roleplay opportunities in the long run. And honestly its a bit childish elementary school playground behavior and none of us are kids.
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"Oh I'm ignoring you because you tried to talk to me, nah nah nah *puts fingers in ears and runs away*
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So hey as FW said, if you see my characters out in public speaking out in public, engage them I won't get mad or anything because If I wanted to be in a private conversation I would be talking in well private. I will never ignore anybody, just ain't cool in my book and is a bad mark of poor roleplaying. Yes, yes it is.
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And as far as griefers go, well I eat those *drinks his daily cup of *Man Up*
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Honestly that is what blacklisting/ignore is for. I don't let griefers ever ruin my day period. Blacklist/Ignore and the show goes on.
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See you all in game!
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