BelovedHatred Wrote:The problem often time with PC villians is that Eventually they have to get caught.
This poses a problem most of the time for one party or another, because either A) the villian has to get caught, put away, executed, whatever. B) He has to escape prison...alot...which begins to make the court system in teh game seem really fail, and in turn anyone wanting to play a guard/patrol type of chr seem the same C) Villian eventually has to die/kill of che, or suddenly see the light ans start skipping through daisies, after they just tried to bring the Lunatic Pandora down on your local tavern last week.
If the constant escape/never caught things happens, players eventually get worn down on the character in question. One can only be harassed with the same plot, same villian for so long without just going to autopilot/ignore mode around them.
Not to bash any ideas, these are just things to consider, because I've seen it happen many a time on Aion.
Everyone wants to be the Sephiroth of the story...but just remember guys...Spehiroth goes away in the end of the story~!
All true if you want to portray a villain in that way, but then again, in a MMO, when do the stories end?
Really good villains, which I pretty much never see, are the ones who for ages hide their true motivations. People like them. They are charming. They can do NUMEROUS bad things through manipulation, like pitting heroic characters with big egos against one another. Then suddenly when it suits their interest, they might have to reveal themselves sure... but if they have enough followers at that point, they don't NEED to go to any jail. They can safely combat any heroic types who might go against them through clever planning and the use of henchman.
I think there are just several problems people run into when playing a villain, and that's conflict RP in general. Most RPers, for some reason, don't like to "lose." They don't. So if you're a villain, you'll always fail, always be thwarted. If you're a hero, the villain you're up against will always want to win. There is far too often not enough give and take in RP because everyone wants to be the star, not just a small part of the greater whole.
That's the biggest cliché of them all and ties in to pretty much every cliché mentioned. 90% of the characters I've run into in RP wanna be the 'star!' It's very rare you run into people who want to be merely a PART in a much larger story.
ArmachiA Wrote:Ellion played a really good villain in Aion. So much so, no one knew he was a villain XD. Fillion was this really charming bad guy, who brought people into his Military Unit under the guise of being a normal as hell military unit but he was actually ploting on getting revenge against the government. He slowly made everyone he recruited see his side and want to join him in his cause, which is good cuz he needed bodies. He picked social outcasts and told them they were special. Daej, my alt, was his bully henchmen, kind of dumb, getting into fight in bars and whatnot.
And yeah, something like that is probably more along the lines I'm talking about... but the only way to really make it take off is for the character to be a main you devote a lot of time too, I think.
That's what I'd like to see.Sadly, my character's story really just doesn't FIT that right now, so I can't play a villain. Of course, my guy might turn INTO one, depending on how various elements mesh and crash into each other... but it's still doubtful that could happen.
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