(08-15-2013, 04:05 AM)CrimsonMars Wrote: Excuse my ignorance, but what is Reddit and Blue Gartr anyway and what is the controversy between them and us?Honestly for those going to Gilgamesh at this point there isn't any. But many roleplayers in general have valid concerns about them due to past experiences with them trolling.
I haven't heard anything about BlueGartr aside from them being progression snobs and well that's the nature of any mmo *shrugs* I mean you are never going to get past that just like you are never going to get past griefers.
And as far as Reddit goes I have found SEVERAL threads on their site just by conducting Google searches mind you that reflect interest in roleplaying. Recently Sony Online Entertainment has even put up a post asking a question related to roleplay for their upcoming Everquest Next. So my question is this. If a major mmo company like SOE is going to Reddit to ask about roleplaying and not to a rp site dedicated to roleplaying what does that tell you? That there must be a significant amount of roleplayers on Reddit.
Love them or hate them multimillion dollar companies know where their audiences hang out.
Just think about reality of this for a bit, and look at the responses.
Here is the thread below
http://www.reddit.com/r/EQNext/comments/...be/cblpndy
Here is my response to the naysayers on the beta forums in Yeldir's post. Just wanted to give them something to think about. Nobody has responded aside from a person that will hopefully be joining us on the server for roleplaying.
Quote:Just want to say a few things for the naysayers.
Last phase I was making the community aware of the fact that there will be roleplayers on the server.
And guess what happened? There was a lot of interest. People were happy they didn't have to leave their crafting/raiding/progression/etc guilds. They were happy that they could finally try out roleplay for the first time without having to change servers. Why? Because the community is so diverse. And this isn't to say that no other server would be as diverse as Gilgamesh.This is to say that yes with all the different communities going there - there will be something for everyone. Want to hang out with the great endgamers - do it. Want to hang out with the roleplayers - do it, want to hang out with the great crafters - do it. Want to learn from the best minmaxers - do it. Everytime I made a post I spoke to various LS/FC leaders who were interested in roleplay being on the server. Why? Because all of them had members of their NON RP organizations who were interested in rp but they as leaders couldn't provide these things to their members.
Bottom line is this, for every negative there is a positive. YOU may not like rp, but trust me, you will have at least one friend who does or who might be interested. At least be respectful to those that do and if its not your thing ignore them. A more inclusive, varied and diverse community for all is a good thing. This was also something I was told when I was making these community notices during phase 3. I even managed to do an impromptu rp class with a group that most isolationist roleplayers would completely write off once they saw their character names.
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Such types of things will be the order of the day on Gilgamesh, such things will be the norm. Just like I am sure some of you can tell me the best class combinations for maxing out dps or making the best quality weapons, well I can teach you how to roleplay and make the game more fun during those boring times once you maxed out everything. Its a win win situation, and remember just because you may not want this doesn't mean that your best bud who is playing the game with you wouldn't be interested either. People are not clones, just because you don't like something doesn't mean that your friends have a problem with it.
So lets not be so selfish yes? More options is better for everyone and if more people join -your- guild on Gilgamesh because they can craft/raid/pvp/endgame and even rp too isn't that better for your bottom line as a guild leader?
"Oh we don't do rp but if you decide to join us there is rp on the server so you won't be disappointed"
And what is wrong with saying something like the line above? Because guess what, that's exactly what will be happening on the server that some guild leaders will be saying knowing that they won't have to lose people for their guilds who also want to rp. Stop thinking about -yourself- and think about others too. Besides we will be providing plenty of things to do like events where people can participate and have fun even without being in character. Fun social events for everyone that is respectful to attend. Think of it in the same way you think of going to see a play for the evening but you don't have to leave the comfort your home.
Bottom line is that you as guild leaders will have competition in recruiting. Do you think you will recruit more people than the guild who does the same thing you do, but has no issues with roleplayers joining their crafting/pvp/progression/endgame guilds? Do you think you will get new members as fast as the GL that is open minded enough to say "Well you know the guild doesn't do rp but I can send you to some guys who can help with that being that there is rp on the server".
Are you 100 percent confident that you won't have and will never have any contact with potential new recruits who also may have an interest in rp? Will you not allow people into your guild if they do have such an interest? Just think about this for a minute.
See you in game!
Just had to give them something to chew on for a bit.
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