(09-11-2013, 10:51 PM)Siobhain Wrote:(09-11-2013, 10:40 PM)Lament Wrote: A bit off topic, but Siobhain, I'd love to know where that knowledge of Miqo'te lore comes from - what I've seen on the wiki and in the naming conventions page is vague, and while the comparison to lions seems valid, the naming conventions do seem to imply that for Seekers, the male is the root of the family. The naming conventions also specifically state that Nunh status does not equate to leadership and that very few Nunh ever become leaders, so it seems like while being a Nunh seems to be a desirable element for breeding, it doesn't actually have any impact on your power within the tribe's hierarchy (though I'd wager it would make you important, as a source of new offspring). I haven't gotten far enough into the game to see if there's any further exposition there and I am really curious if there are other sources of lore I haven't found yet!
I also remember reading somewhere that one Nunh per 10-50 females is average, which seems to imply there can be more than one Nunh per tribe, but for the life of me I can't remember where it was I read that.
Herp durp I have a high quality memory. It's in the naming conventions topic:
Quote:Depending on its size, a tribe may have multiple nunh (a ratio of one nunh per ten to fifty females is average).
 Yep, I found that too. Actually, what I misread was another forum topic that brought up that they -could- be patriarchal or they -could- not be patriarchal and probably both forms of society exist given the number of different tribes. I also think I took the part about Nunhs not always becoming leaders and the part where, even though they are the root of a new clan (when they establish one) they are also replaceable and my brain equated a fact out of that that doesn't actually exist.
 Sorry 'bout dat.
D: I was hoping for more lore. Darn. Thanks for clarifying though!
The naming conventions topic does state they are patriarchal, just not the degree of it. I imagine women do hold important positions in most of the tribes - at least most of the NPCs don't seem to be the submissive, meek types, which would be expected if the patriarchy was very strict - and that each tribe has its own quirks. I always took the Keepers as more extreme in the male/female value gap, since their naming conventions are way more severe and imply a lot more disregard for the individuality of males than the Seekers' conventions do for that of females. It reminds me of an ancient Korean dynasty that is alluded to in a visual novel, where women were so unimportant in the hierarchy that they didn't even get their given names written in family trees - just the name of the family they came from, whereas men got their given name and their family name.
