(09-13-2013, 11:08 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote:(09-13-2013, 09:37 PM)Kylin Wrote: I told you how it could be combated in my first post...I swear nobody reads anything these days
With respect, you didn't (and yes, I did read the whole post; I assume in good faith that you're not skimming my posts, please don't assume I'm skimming yours). You advised the targets of this -- let's be frank -- prejudice that they should elide parts of their gameplay history and misrepresent themselves to eliminate themselves as a target for that prejudice. That's not combating prejudice; that's becoming complicit in it to one's personal benefit. Yes, you're combating its effects on you, but you're not actually affecting the underlying misconception that's the source of the problem. While a player may certainly do whatever they wish, telling someone how to become part of the system isn't really telling people how to combat that system.
At any rate, I maintain that the opinion that "lots of MMOs played = flighty, poor RPer" is based on a flawed assumption, and I think that those who hold to it will ultimately find themselves marginalized in the vast sea of new players -- what I already predicted would happen and why I advocated (and continue to advocate) new players come to Balmung. The "big names" of the past will give way to the "big names" of the present and future, and if those who were once active here want to RP with new players, they'll need to make the next move and engage, putting aside their prejudices and misconceptions. The "big names" are now the minority.
To new players: there's lots of mentors, lots of new groups, and lots of RPers out there. You can safely choose not to engage with those who would prefer not to engage with you. My advice is rather different from Kylin's. My advice is to be open about who you are, what you've done, and how you like to RP, then be willing to take that first step and connect with a mentor, start a thread asking for people to RP with, apply to an LS or FC, or even just drop a tell to someone you think has an interesting character and set up a scene. While I agree with some of his perspective, I think the advice about play history is deeply flawed, and I would submit that you wouldn't want to RP with anyone who holds that stance anyway.
Thank god you jumped in here. Seriously thank god. And honestly thank you all for the good advice you mentioned.
I will touch on one thing though mentioned
I filled the linkshells I managed by "walkers" Why? Because I send them a tell when I see them walking asking them if they are an rper. It takes no time to do this and worst case scenario the worst you will get is "no". A lot of times "walkers" who rp want to get noticed. Its why they are walking in the first place. I know its why I do it.
I've been playing and rping in mmos since the late nineties. So I think I'm a pretty good authority on what rpers do and don't do and the packed numbers on the ooc linkshells that I manage give credence to this.
Not to mention we have a booming rp community now on the server full of Redditers, 4channers and Blue garter folks and we have ALOT of them in our linkshells rping right along with us. So I think I know what I'm talking about when it comes to community building. Especially in a place where the so called impossible is now possible.
Either way if anyone decides to come to Gilgamesh just send me a tell in game or send me a pm here if you are shy. I rp with everyone and anyone so feel free to bother me if you see my character walking around. I do it so you know you can approach me, I can also point you in the right direction for contacts and rp friends and the like. Coming into a new community is hard enough, but its my honest to god job to make sure that its a good and smooth transition for everyone who joins us so please please feel free to hit me up and ask anything that you want.
Besides experience beats everything, that's what my long list of rping in mmos got me and I wouldn't trade that in for anything.
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