(12-06-2013, 02:47 PM)Naunet Wrote: I don't think we can so easily say there is only one nunh per territory. Squeenix never explicitly states a rule on how many nunhs there are, save that "Depending on its size, a tribe may have multiple nunh (a ratio of one nunh per ten to fifty females is average)" - which is pretty broad. Lore also uses the term "tribe" when discussing a single territory, so it's entirely possible that there are multiple "breeding groups" (not actually a term used by Squeenix) within a single location.
My argument is based on a series of dev posts. The original naming conventions post specifies the nunh to female ratio and the mechanism of challenge. However, this later post clarifies that, instead of creating a new tribe, a Seeker tia can secure new territory for the tribe and, in that way, become "the nunh of that area." This post notes that the territory needs to support around 20-50 females and a few tia. Also, every time nunh are mentioned by the devs, they refer to "the nunh" and not "a nunh," though I realize arguments based on wording are a bit weak when translation is involved.
At any rate, when we put these three posts together, it seems to me that the dev vision is that any tribe (at the overall "26 tribes" level) has multiple territories, each of which has one nunh. In that way, player flexibility in backstory is preserved, since everyone can have their own territory if they want. IMO, that doesn't screw up the Hipparion player-created lore, since those territories of the K tribe so created can have similar leadership, laws, traditions, etc. Even the use of the word "tribe" is fine because, as you note, SE has been rather loose with the terminology themselves, and it seems entirely reasonable a group of territories on friendly terms might refer to themselves as a "tribe." They might even have a certain degree of movement of people between territories and overlap of land depending on the personalities of the tribal leadership and nunhs involved. Going somewhat further afield of stated lore, one could even refer to "territory" as just "the females with a particular nunh," which is more or less true but ignores the dev post indication that territory is synonymous with hunting ground. (An interesting implication of these dev posts is that tribal Seekers largely remain hunter-gatherers, but that's a discussion for another thread.
)That said, in this thread, the player supposition seems to be that we can call a grouping of related territories a "sept" (if nothing else OOCly to help prevent nomenclatural confusion).
Also, I seem to recall us having this conversation before on another thread...
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