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01-03-2014, 11:16 PM
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(01-03-2014, 02:09 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: White Mage is pretty complicated in terms of lore compatibility, though the 2.x plot for learning it is less restrictive than the 1.x one -- which is not to say that it's something as readily repeatable as, say, the Summoner plot (where you just go beat up the egi of a Primal to whose energies you were attuned).

As I recall, while one of the Padjal in the first 2.x White Mage quest is set against you learning that art, the other takes a more pragmatic approach. On that basis, I think it's reasonably plausible to say that there's some disagreement among the Padjal with regards to restricting White Magic given recent events in the world, and so you may have learned it from one with a more progressive point of view.

No.  The sole reason that Raya-O-Senna is willing to consider you is because the Soul Crystal of A-Towa-Kan actually chose you.  Otherwise, she'd have been completely dismissive of any idea of you becoming a White Mage (and, in fact, your character appears to have no knowledge that White Mages exist prior to receiving the Soul Crystal). Her brother's issue with you is that he doesn't care whether or not A-Towa-Kan's Soul Crystal chose you or not - you're not Padjal so you shouldn't even be knowing about White Magic.

Quote:Also, knowledge is hard to keep hidden, and so one could, I suppose, be taught White Magic on the sly from someone who knows it already.

Uh, sure.  But the moment you use it, the Elementals would know (since they're apparently actively keeping tabs on who is accessing Succor, and how much they're able to access).  And then they would strip the power from you, per the storyline.  Raya-O-Senna herself threatens to strip you of your power should you abuse it, and there is no reason to believe that she couldn't - especially since she'd have the backing of the Elementals who stripped mankind of White Magic in the first place.

Someone earlier (I forget who at the moment) said that Conjurer's don't use White Magic.  But per the White Mage questline, they do.  They're accessing a very limited part of it - limited because the Elementals aren't allowing them further access.

Quote:After all, Eorzea's a big place, and the Padjal can't very well strip every rogue White Mage of their power (assuming they can strip anyone of their power; threats can be hollow, after all).

No, but since the Elementals are apparently monitoring the source of that power, they could, indeed, strip someone of the power - since they're effectively doing that to every single Conjurer (they're already limiting/restricting them to the portion of magic that Conjurers are able to use).

Quote:Finally, there's nothing saying you couldn't independently discover or stumble across those spells. IMO, as long as you have a narrative reason to explain how you got your knowledge of White Magic, you're in good shape.

Sure.  But that doesn't mean that it would fit with the Lore, and that doesn't mean that other characters would (or should) take you seriously.

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Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Nananomi - 01-02-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Edgar - 01-02-2014, 02:31 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-02-2014, 02:40 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Nananomi - 01-02-2014, 02:42 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 03:19 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-02-2014, 06:30 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 10:30 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-02-2014, 09:39 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 11:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 02:34 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 03:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 03:49 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:37 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-03-2014, 08:25 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-02-2014, 04:13 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Jomoru - 01-02-2014, 07:06 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:38 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-02-2014, 06:33 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 05:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-03-2014, 10:56 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 11:57 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-03-2014, 11:33 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 12:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Darkfae - 01-03-2014, 02:57 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Rinh Hallani - 01-03-2014, 12:43 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-03-2014, 01:25 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-03-2014, 02:12 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Lost River - 01-03-2014, 01:27 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-03-2014, 02:09 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-03-2014, 03:06 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-03-2014, 04:02 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 11:23 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-03-2014, 11:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-03-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Merri - 01-03-2014, 03:40 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-03-2014, 03:57 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 12:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 01:34 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 02:01 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 02:13 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Naunet - 01-04-2014, 01:22 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-04-2014, 02:15 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-04-2014, 02:23 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 02:34 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 03:41 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by ansemaru - 01-04-2014, 02:35 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 02:41 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 03:50 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Tla - 01-04-2014, 05:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Gharen - 01-04-2014, 02:45 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Kendha'to - 01-04-2014, 03:00 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Darkfae - 01-04-2014, 03:14 AM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Ildur - 01-04-2014, 01:14 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by LiadansWhisper - 01-04-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Whittledown - 01-04-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Sounsyy - 01-04-2014, 03:16 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 01-04-2014, 04:01 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by TheLastCandle - 01-04-2014, 04:44 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by Lost River - 01-04-2014, 05:01 PM
RE: Summoners viable without facing Primals? - by TheLastCandle - 01-04-2014, 05:29 PM

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