(01-16-2014, 12:44 AM)Ildur Wrote: Roleplaying a Padjal, an Elemental or a chosen one of the Elementals is just making your character a Mary Sue.
No more than rolling a White Mage. Â Unique doesn't automatically equate to "Mary Sue." Â I think the term is thrown around way too much. Â Just because something is different, or special, doesn't make it bad.
Quote:Padjal are part of Gridania's ruling body, so it is a major "Mary Sueism", even if you imply he's wandering around and not delving in politics.
The only Padjal we definitively see as part of Gridania's ruling body are the Seedseers. Â And there are only three of them - whereas there are other Padjal that are obviously not part of that body. Â Making the claim that you can't play Padjal because 3 of them rule Gridania is like saying you can't play a Lalafell because Ul'dah is ruled by the Sultanate of Ul.
Quote:Still, they are directly influenced by the Elementals, so besides being a leader of Gridania (and nobody could refute you because that's what Padjal are meant to do)
Yes, you can. Â The sole purpose of the Padjal is to intercede between the Elementals and the Gridanians. Â It does not automatically follow that this makes them rulers. Â At best, you could say they are Emissaries - so diplomats.
Quote:you are also a Chosen One. Being deemed pure by the Elementals is akin to being a Chosen One of any other god-like entity. Being one of the Elementals taking physical form is no different that implying your character is Nophica made manifest, or that you are a piece of Bahamut soul. It's just asking for incredible trouble.
Technically, you're the "Chosen One" if you play a White Mage at all, unless you ignore the lore. Â But I think it's perfectly viable to say that your character is one of a very few who was deemed pure by the Elementals. Â Unless you're claiming to the be the only one, I don't see how it drifts into "Chosen One" territory, beyond the already difficult issue of being a White Mage.
Quote:All the other suggestions are intereting and plausible enough, though, specially the Wildlings one, though you have to remember Wildlings are 'cursed' to roam the Shroud forever, so it might be hard to justify going anywhere else ICly. Not impossible, but pretty hard to do unless you handwave it with "the Elementals work in mysterious ways".
Agreed.