(02-12-2014, 08:19 PM)FreelanceWizard Wrote: There's a few lore points I feel I should raise. First, while Garuda may not typically temper non-Ixal, she definitely attempts to do so right after you "defeat" her in the story mode battle as punishment for your insolence in attacking her. The issue of losses due to tempering is brought up in other side quests as well, so it stands to reason that the only "safe" way to fight a Primal is with the Echo protecting you.
Wanted to add just a little on to this, as I've seen a few comments saying that Titan doesn't temper people. When you sign up for the Titan Extreme Quest "Quake Me Up Before You O'Ghomoro" Commander R'ashaht Rhiki specifically states that Lominsa will not send her troops in to help defeat Titan because the loss of forces due to Tempering would be too great.
But I will also back what others have been saying that you do not require the Echo to defeat a Primal. But should a Primal attempt to Temper you, you will be powerless to resist it if you do not have the Echo.
(02-12-2014, 08:29 PM)Celeste Wrote: Now, as for right now --I don't think-- the Sahagin have been successful in summoning Leviathan --so far--. I know they are trying to, but as far as I am aware the Lord of the Whorl has yet to heed them.
Leviathan was first summoned by the Sahagin in 1562 of the Sixth Astral Era. Leviathan was then summarily defeated by The Company of Heroes around the same time that they defeated Titan. The Sahagin have been hostile towards Lominsa ever since. Prior to 1562 though, a 1.0 NPC named Sisipu claims that the Sahagin were a harmless beast race who's worst crimes against Lominsans were cutting fishing nets.Â
However, there's currently no lore to support that Leviathan was summoned more than that one time.