(02-12-2014, 11:41 PM)Oroban Wrote: What about Elder Primals? Things like Bahamut and Odin, I'm pretty sure either simply don't temper, or are incapable of it in the whole. Ascians try to summon Bahamut, but not out of any tempering, since the first the world saw of him in ages was the calamity, and there's no way that tempered people would live from before history until now. Since there's no evidence that they even -can- temper, what would the consensus on that sort of thing be?
I think there is sufficient evidence to support that Bahamut can "temper". I'm of the opinion that Nael deus Darnus is a victim of said Primal's influence. I think it was in the Twin Adder GC Quest "Don't Kill the Messenger" where you have a pleasant chat with Gaius van Baelsar and he speaks kind of at length about how Darnus used to be very different person, and how he slowly became twisted by the secrets of ancient Allag. (Dalamud in particular.) Also when you fight Darnus at Rivenroad he speaks in blind reverence and admiration of Dalamud, very much like the tempered beastmen do to their Primal.Â
There's also the Dalamud Cultists, but I highly doubt they're tempered. I think they've just got a few screws loose. And they don't really worship Bahamut, they worship Dalamud, which until the Calamity was thought to be Menphina's Sister. No one knew there was an Elder Primal tucked inside of it.
As for Odin tempering, no clue. We haven't seen any evidence of it. Of course, there isn't a group that worships the Elder Primals, as they haven't been seen since Allagan times. But I would reason that since 7/8 known Primals can temper, I'd wager that they all have the ability to temper if they desire.
