(03-01-2014, 02:41 PM)Entity Wrote:(03-01-2014, 01:11 PM)Ildur Wrote: "Of course that, when I say that to be an Ul'dahn noble you need to be rich, that 'you' means 'your character on a roleplaying level'. The actual ammount of gil you have mechanically speaking is irrelevant. But how much gil or properties or riches in general your character has in-character is relevant to him being or not an Ul'dahn noble. Once you have defined him as an Ul'dahn noble, you can go nuts with the concept. But your basis for the character has to be strong, and for it to be strong it needs to be consistent with the game universe."On this part, I would disagree. In any game or story you create, it is your world, and how you choose to go about it depends on you, as the creator. Here I am speaking of the people who made FFXIV. One can use references from the real world to CREATE their world, but at the same time, they shouldn't have to adhere to policies and cultures of the real world. What I mean is, just because of something you know in the real world is used in your story doesn't mean it has to be exactly like it. It can be warped, transformed, or twisted however you feel you want it to be. That's why it's called fantasy and fiction, because while it's not true nor completely follows real life elements, it is looking at what we as human beings believe to be true or learn about OUR world in a different way, opening our minds to something entirely different, which is why I have a slight problem with people who base something that's not wholly explained or covered in the game on on something that's in real life, because I feel you are limiting yourself that way. I speak of just the creation of a story or system in general when it comes to these kind of things. And no Ul'dah is not the only place where you can be a noble, if that's what you're implying here.
I think what Ildur was trying to say is that it is almost canon-ly necessary for your character to be rich to be nobility in Ul'dah. It doesn't have anything to do with real life influences. (Which I'll agree, leave real world stigmas out of fantasy settings.)
However, the only lore ways to be a Noble in Ul'dah are [1] Be related somehow to one of the royal families of Ul'dah or make up a royal/noble family to be a part of. And if you're related to one of the royal families, you're already wealthy. (Look at Prince Teledji Adeledji.) [2] Be uncommonly wealthy and "buy" your nobility. How you go about amassing your fortune is up to you as a roleplayer.
Now this doesn't mean your character can't have been nobility or related to nobility and then gave it all up for the adventurer's lifestyle or something like that, idk. But at that point, you've pretty much relinquished your noble title in the eyes of Ul'dahians. Social Status in Ul'dah is all about money. Money is what makes you powerful. Without it, you're as noble as the beggars on Pearl Lane.
