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RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? |
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04-30-2014, 04:47 PM
King Moggle Mog is kind of an interesting case.

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In the lead-up cutscenes to the fight, you find out that the Mogglesguard are collecting crystals to summon King Moggle Mog. Yda and Papalymo express surprise at this, because he's not a Primal; he's a legendary being from moogle mythology. Once you confirm the summoning and defeat him, you go back and speak with them and the Elder Seedseer, and the disturbing revelation is that, while he's not a Primal, he was certainly summoned in the same manner as one. They suspect that the Ascians showed them how to perform such an act, which is a bit of a surprise as the Scions believed only Primals could be summoned in that way.

I'm not sure I entirely agree with your point 3. Tempering turns people into slavish devotees of their Primal and often drives them to become twisted reflections of the principle the Primal represents. Ramuh, for instance, is about fatherly protection and unity, and so his Tempered followers kidnap other Sylphs to "protect" them and unify their people. Ifrit represents cleansing fire, and so his followers kidnap people to strengthen him via Tempering (to better burn away impurities) and attack "infidels." As far as we've seen, the chosen of Hydaelyn and A Certain Other Thing don't exhibit any of those characteristics; they appear to act as they wish through their own free will.

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In fact, you find out later that Lahabrea wasn't acting under any authority, and the Emissary clearly has disagreements with other Ascians. They're not the unified force that Tempered followers of Primals are, any more than all those with the Echo are a unified force.

By the by, in the Ifrit cutscene, he doesn't say you've been claimed by another. That's what the Amalj'aa priest says. Instead, Ifrit says, "Yet I smell not the taint of another upon thee... The truth of thine allegiance waxeth clear -- thou art of the godless blessed's number. The Paragons warned of thine abhorrent kind. Thine existence is not to be suffered." To a Primal, at least, the Echo is very much not the same thing as Tempering.

IMO, I'd avoid the Echo outside of its stated, known effects: it makes you immune to Tempering, it gives you a random and uncontrolled ability to see the past, and it allows you to understand languages and idioms that are inscrutable to others by allowing you to connect with the minds of others. It may also allow you to act as a conduit for Hydaelyn's light and disrupt the possession of Ascians, but we only have a single example of that in the MSQ. Beyond that, we'll have to wait for future patches to delve further into the nature of the Echo. Certainly the Ascians feel it's a wicked thing, but consider the source. Smile The devs may have a curveball ready for us...

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Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Melkire - 04-27-2014, 06:44 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Jana - 04-27-2014, 09:48 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Edgar - 04-27-2014, 09:53 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Sounsyy - 04-28-2014, 03:13 AM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Olofantur - 04-28-2014, 10:23 AM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by ansemaru - 04-30-2014, 07:10 AM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Melkire - 04-30-2014, 03:17 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Melkire - 04-30-2014, 06:25 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Sounsyy - 04-30-2014, 07:38 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 04-30-2014, 09:54 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 04-30-2014, 04:47 PM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Sonusem - 05-02-2014, 12:06 AM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by Sounsyy - 05-02-2014, 02:38 AM
RE: Tempering - Exclusive to Primals? - by FreelanceWizard - 05-02-2014, 09:20 AM

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