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RE: Gender roles |
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07-11-2014, 07:57 PM
(07-07-2014, 03:19 PM)LiadansWhisper Wrote: They may not have remembered it because the NPCs in question never came right out and stated, point blank, what happened.  Like, what I remember about the Ala Mhigo quests is that it was implied that the woman in question (a girl, really, implied to be the equivalent of a teenager, as well) used very veiled language and only directly said that she was harassed.  The strong implication was that she'd been touched against her will (i.e. groped or otherwise manhandled), but I actually had to think about the quest for a bit to realize that most likely she'd actually been raped - but that was based on the information I got about the people who hurt her and the reactions of the other Ala Mhigans when she explained what happened, not what she actually said.  And the word "rape" is never used.  

I can't even remember the Ishgardian incident, so I may have missed it or misinterpreted it (or blocked the entire zone out of my mind because it was so rage-inducing in general Angry ).
If they mention it, it bumps up the rating to Mature due to the game having sexual content rather than suggestive content. Wouldn't even surprise me if the skirting around the issue is outright because of that consideration rather than anything else, even if it's really, really bad how often that trope is used in FFXIV.

Count me in the "Fuck Ishgarde" camp. Originally I wanted to make a Duskwight that really didn't like the Gridanians but still tolerated them but because of Ul'dah's city storyline and Ishgarde I pretty much went "Welp he hates everyone he'd sell the whole continent out to Garland if it wasn't for the fact that he hates them even more than the rest of these assholes."

Honestly, when the deal with the Ixal happened and the only non-Ishgardian at that camp wanted to help them I wanted to say fuck them. Let the Ixal wipe that nation off the face of the planet there is nothing good that can come out of Ishgarde ever.

(07-07-2014, 09:49 AM)Roswyn Wrote: I get the feeling that Squeenix wants to have the convenience of placing woman in strong roles while at the same time subtly reminding us that they are physically weaker. Or the "majority" are weaker. MMO's like WoW head this off at the pass by blatantly saying in the game manual that there is no difference between males and females stat-wise in Azeroth. As far as I am aware, FF14 makes no such distinction.
If they do it (I remember them doing it kind of but I'm not too sure myself anymore), it's very well hidden and more as a way of saying "Your gender doesn't matter for stats so you don't need to change gender for minmaxing" rather than make a statement about the game world.

Which is really bad - they could have done better but I'm not expecting Square-Enix to do anything remotely good on that issue at this point.
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Gender roles - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 11:16 AM
RE: Gender roles - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 04:01 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Devereau - 06-25-2014, 04:11 PM
RE: Gender roles - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 04:21 PM
RE: Gender roles - by TheLastCandle - 06-25-2014, 04:21 PM
RE: Gender roles - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 04:29 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 06-25-2014, 04:20 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Smiling River - 06-25-2014, 04:37 PM
RE: Gender roles - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 04:49 PM
RE: Gender roles - by synaesthetic - 07-05-2014, 02:59 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Nebbs - 07-05-2014, 03:13 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Mercurias - 06-26-2014, 01:32 AM
RE: Gender roles - by OttoVann - 06-30-2014, 03:30 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 06-30-2014, 03:44 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Erik Mynhier - 06-30-2014, 04:00 PM
RE: Gender roles - by UltraFennec - 07-02-2014, 02:57 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-05-2014, 03:17 PM
RE: Gender roles - by synaesthetic - 07-05-2014, 03:22 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-05-2014, 05:45 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-05-2014, 05:49 PM
RE: Gender roles - by FreelanceWizard - 07-05-2014, 06:19 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aya - 07-05-2014, 07:00 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-05-2014, 08:40 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-06-2014, 05:55 PM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-06-2014, 06:13 PM
RE: Gender roles - by FreelanceWizard - 07-06-2014, 07:45 PM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-06-2014, 08:37 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-07-2014, 03:41 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-06-2014, 10:24 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Roswyn - 07-07-2014, 09:49 AM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-07-2014, 03:19 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-11-2014, 07:57 PM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-13-2014, 11:07 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-07-2014, 01:17 PM
RE: Gender roles - by TheLastCandle - 07-13-2014, 01:17 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Crisiet - 07-13-2014, 02:31 PM
RE: Gender roles - by TheLastCandle - 07-13-2014, 02:38 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-17-2014, 07:59 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-17-2014, 08:04 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Crisiet - 07-18-2014, 09:53 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-23-2014, 10:15 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-23-2014, 11:08 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Seriphyn - 07-24-2014, 01:54 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 11:52 AM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-24-2014, 12:05 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 12:17 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 12:25 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 12:39 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-24-2014, 12:44 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-24-2014, 12:50 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-24-2014, 12:30 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 12:40 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 12:43 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 12:55 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aerghwab - 07-24-2014, 01:21 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-24-2014, 01:09 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 01:13 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 01:32 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-24-2014, 01:35 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 01:39 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aerghwab - 07-24-2014, 01:41 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 01:48 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aerghwab - 07-24-2014, 01:50 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 01:36 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 07-24-2014, 01:38 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 01:58 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-24-2014, 02:02 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 02:08 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 02:21 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 02:26 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 02:15 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 07-24-2014, 02:17 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 02:24 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 02:27 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-24-2014, 02:27 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 07-24-2014, 02:33 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-24-2014, 02:51 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 02:36 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 02:39 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 02:54 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 03:21 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Gaspard - 07-24-2014, 03:44 PM
RE: Gender roles - by TheLastCandle - 07-24-2014, 04:06 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Gaspard - 07-24-2014, 04:11 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 04:19 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Melkire - 07-24-2014, 04:21 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 04:27 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 04:39 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 04:41 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 07-24-2014, 04:20 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Gaspard - 07-24-2014, 04:26 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 07-24-2014, 04:30 PM
RE: Gender roles - by FreelanceWizard - 07-24-2014, 04:55 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aerghwab - 07-24-2014, 04:28 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 04:34 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 04:52 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Melkire - 07-24-2014, 04:55 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 05:15 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Unnamed Mercenary - 07-24-2014, 05:31 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 05:43 PM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-25-2014, 04:14 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Unnamed Mercenary - 07-25-2014, 08:40 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Mae - 07-25-2014, 10:21 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Unnamed Mercenary - 07-25-2014, 10:39 AM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-25-2014, 01:07 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Mae - 07-25-2014, 05:40 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 05:03 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Melkire - 07-24-2014, 05:05 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 05:07 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 05:15 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-24-2014, 05:45 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 07:20 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Melkire - 07-24-2014, 07:25 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 07:41 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aerghwab - 07-24-2014, 05:54 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 05:56 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aerghwab - 07-24-2014, 06:32 PM
RE: Gender roles - by synaesthetic - 07-26-2014, 04:53 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-26-2014, 05:22 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Mae - 07-26-2014, 07:13 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Crisiet - 07-26-2014, 07:22 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-26-2014, 07:27 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-26-2014, 05:23 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 06:54 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 07:27 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 07:42 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Warren Castille - 07-24-2014, 07:49 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 07:47 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-24-2014, 07:50 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aerghwab - 07-24-2014, 08:22 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-25-2014, 01:53 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-24-2014, 07:56 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-24-2014, 08:41 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-25-2014, 07:29 AM
RE: Gender roles - by synaesthetic - 07-26-2014, 04:31 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Edgar - 07-26-2014, 07:13 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 07-26-2014, 11:12 PM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-26-2014, 11:27 PM
RE: Gender roles - by LandStander - 07-27-2014, 12:57 AM
RE: Gender roles - by synaesthetic - 07-27-2014, 01:08 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-27-2014, 03:44 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-27-2014, 04:16 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-27-2014, 04:28 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-27-2014, 04:34 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-27-2014, 04:48 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-27-2014, 05:01 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-27-2014, 05:07 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-27-2014, 05:11 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kellach Woods - 07-27-2014, 06:55 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Berrod Armstrong - 07-27-2014, 05:16 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Kage - 07-28-2014, 01:19 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Aya - 07-28-2014, 01:30 PM
RE: Gender roles - by C'kayah Polaali - 07-28-2014, 07:26 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-28-2014, 07:46 PM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-28-2014, 11:03 PM
RE: Gender roles - by C'kayah Polaali - 07-29-2014, 08:30 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Naunet - 07-29-2014, 12:05 PM
RE: Gender roles - by C'kayah Polaali - 07-29-2014, 05:30 PM
RE: Gender roles - by McBeefâ„¢ - 07-29-2014, 03:18 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Yssen - 07-29-2014, 05:10 AM
RE: Gender roles - by LiadansWhisper - 07-29-2014, 05:28 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Zhavi - 07-29-2014, 12:14 PM
RE: Gender roles - by Zyrusticae - 07-29-2014, 06:49 PM
RE: Gender roles - by C'kayah Polaali - 07-30-2014, 03:53 PM
RE: Gender roles - by allgivenover - 07-30-2014, 04:12 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by Coatleque - 06-25-2014, 11:22 AM
RE: Gender roles - by UltraFennec - 06-25-2014, 11:35 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 11:27 AM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by Warren Castille - 06-25-2014, 11:33 AM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by Coatleque - 06-25-2014, 11:43 AM
RE: Gender roles - by Flickering Ember - 07-01-2014, 10:21 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 11:55 AM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by McBeefâ„¢ - 06-25-2014, 11:58 AM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by Oscare - 06-25-2014, 12:59 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by Warren Castille - 06-25-2014, 01:05 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by McBeefâ„¢ - 06-25-2014, 01:07 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by Whittledown - 06-25-2014, 01:11 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by K'nahli - 06-25-2014, 01:14 PM
RE: Gender roles - by FreelanceWizard - 06-25-2014, 03:48 PM
RE: How Does Your Character Treat the Sexes? - by Edgar - 06-25-2014, 03:23 PM

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