Before I try to make a point on something here, I need to do a little summary of certain events. This summary is full of RP story spoilers, but please bear with me as it is important to the point I will try to make.
This event has made me question if I would actually kill off my character if it logically came to that. I think it should be noted that I am -still- a new RPer. I have been RPing for ten months, and everything has been put into Kiht. I aim for the heavy spectrum of RP, but Kiht is technically my -only- RP character. If she dies, I loose all my RP and must start all over on a new character. I am have been trying to think of a suitable alt for months, and can not think of any character that would be as fun to play as Kiht.
No one said those exact words but, Aya, you did say:
Unless, I am misinterpreting this, you are saying that you will refuse to RP with anyone who does not accept the consequences that -you- deem appropriate.
You also said this:
I am sorry, but that seems so "black and white" to the extreme. Anyone who has a collar on is automatically guilty and deserves death? Getting collared is not automatically being an accessory to mass murder. My character has done nothing to deserve that death penalty, and if she survives this plot, I am -not- going to play her as a criminal. She has done -everything- in her power to ensure that Ul'dah was protected, and that Kahn'a had plenty of allies. Even after being collared she sent notes to her FC to tell them to find Kahn'a and save Ul'dah. I can not agree that she is a guilty person, and that is not just because she is my character. I am also arguing this for other characters in Kiht's position.
One thing I agree on is that the consequences -do- need to be discussed.
I OOCly knew about the poison, but did not OOCly know that Jin'li would succeed, or that it would cause this kind of death. As for what Kiht knew ICly? Almost nothing.
If everyone decides to expect my character to die, or be in hiding for the rest of her life after this event, I need to know. I may want to retcon, or pull her out of the plot before it is set in stone.
Also, please note that this post holds no anger. Frustration, and a bit of sadness, yes. But, I am trying to make a calm argument here.
Edit: Also, one thing I have noticed is people seem to want to ICly recognize Kiht even when she is in disguise. Kiht showed up to the event with a bandanna pulled down over the tattoo on her forehead. She wore a lot of face paint that blocked or obscured her facial features and hid her scar. You can not identify the difference between a Keeper and a Seeker until you get close enough to see their eyes clearly. Only the people who got close enough to see Kiht's face clearly should know she was there. Meyla, Khloe, Atticus, Tiergan, Sizha'to, Kahn'a, R'shenn, Naih'ir, Osric, Kanaria and Maybe Erik got close enough to see her face and identify her. No one else would.
This event has made me question if I would actually kill off my character if it logically came to that. I think it should be noted that I am -still- a new RPer. I have been RPing for ten months, and everything has been put into Kiht. I aim for the heavy spectrum of RP, but Kiht is technically my -only- RP character. If she dies, I loose all my RP and must start all over on a new character. I am have been trying to think of a suitable alt for months, and can not think of any character that would be as fun to play as Kiht.
(07-14-2014, 03:51 PM)Aya Wrote:(07-14-2014, 03:43 PM)Austurmax Laforet Wrote: I'd encourage everyone to react ICly as they will, but I'd stop short of saying everyone who has ever been collared forfeits their character or is a bad rper.No one anywhere, anywhere!, in this thread has said that anyone is a "bad rper".
No one said those exact words but, Aya, you did say:
Aya Wrote:You can say this all you like, Osric, and I know that you are prepared to accept the IC consequences for Osric.
But good luck to anyone who tries to convince people that they took part in this plot, and wound up as anything except:
A) Dead
B) Permanently on the run from authorities, vengeful relatives, and the demons of their crimes.
Mass murder is not fun and games. Its not redeemable; its not excusable; its not explainable. They can pretend that they have escaped the consequences somehow, but they shall not RP with me.
Unless, I am misinterpreting this, you are saying that you will refuse to RP with anyone who does not accept the consequences that -you- deem appropriate.
You also said this:
Aya Wrote:No question about it. There is no compulsion defense for accessory to mass murder. We should be looking for a triggering device not a disabling one for those collars.
I am sorry, but that seems so "black and white" to the extreme. Anyone who has a collar on is automatically guilty and deserves death? Getting collared is not automatically being an accessory to mass murder. My character has done nothing to deserve that death penalty, and if she survives this plot, I am -not- going to play her as a criminal. She has done -everything- in her power to ensure that Ul'dah was protected, and that Kahn'a had plenty of allies. Even after being collared she sent notes to her FC to tell them to find Kahn'a and save Ul'dah. I can not agree that she is a guilty person, and that is not just because she is my character. I am also arguing this for other characters in Kiht's position.
One thing I agree on is that the consequences -do- need to be discussed.
I OOCly knew about the poison, but did not OOCly know that Jin'li would succeed, or that it would cause this kind of death. As for what Kiht knew ICly? Almost nothing.
If everyone decides to expect my character to die, or be in hiding for the rest of her life after this event, I need to know. I may want to retcon, or pull her out of the plot before it is set in stone.
Also, please note that this post holds no anger. Frustration, and a bit of sadness, yes. But, I am trying to make a calm argument here.
Edit: Also, one thing I have noticed is people seem to want to ICly recognize Kiht even when she is in disguise. Kiht showed up to the event with a bandanna pulled down over the tattoo on her forehead. She wore a lot of face paint that blocked or obscured her facial features and hid her scar. You can not identify the difference between a Keeper and a Seeker until you get close enough to see their eyes clearly. Only the people who got close enough to see Kiht's face clearly should know she was there. Meyla, Khloe, Atticus, Tiergan, Sizha'to, Kahn'a, R'shenn, Naih'ir, Osric, Kanaria and Maybe Erik got close enough to see her face and identify her. No one else would.
